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Name me one thing about life in America that is better now than it was in January 2020, aside from the personal conduct of the president.


Employment rate, checkmate.
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Employment rate, checkmate.


The current unemployment rate in the US is 3.7%, it stood at 3.6% in January 2020.
https://www.bls.gov
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2020/unemployment-rate-2-percent-for-college-grads-3-8-percent-for-high-school-grads-in-january-2020.htm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 3 Dec 2022 12:27)

lol sauceman bamboozled yet again
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I will repeat slowly so you can understand: E-m-p-l-o-y-m-e-n-t r-a-t-e.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employment-rate
/e click the "5Y" button


Not a bitchy pickup on UNemployment rate :rolleyes:



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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 3 2022 08:56am)
Name me one thing about life in America that is better now than it was in January 2020, aside from the personal conduct of the president.


This is a political forum correct? so conduct of the pres. might be relevant?
Covid life has gone back to normal
I don't have to read everyday about the Pres dismantling some part of the gov't that he doesn't agree with.
Inflation would of happened with Trump
The is zero evidence that Trumps mere presence would of stopped Putin. In fact I would bet he would of actually gotten us into a war.. The pressure to "do something" would have triggered his dumb ideas to kick in. "fly US planes with Chinese flags and bomb Moscow" was one I remember him stating.
The infrastructure deal was a net gain imo.
I don't have to watch the banana republic trump family operation
Watching MAGA cry is actually a net gain /fact.
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This is a political forum correct? so conduct of the pres. might be relevant?
Covid life has gone back to normal
I don't have to read everyday about the Pres dismantling some part of the gov't that he doesn't agree with.
Inflation would of happened with Trump
The is zero evidence that Trumps mere presence would of stopped Putin. In fact I would bet he would of actually gotten us into a war.. The pressure to "do something" would have triggered his dumb ideas to kick in. "fly US planes with Chinese flags and bomb Moscow" was one I remember him stating.
The infrastructure deal was a net gain imo.
I don't have to watch the banana republic trump family operation
Watching MAGA cry is actually a net gain /fact.

I specifically picked January 2020 as the reference point to factor out covid. ;)

Inflation would have happened with Trump, but not to the same extent. He wouldn't have pushed for another stimulus package in the summer of 2021 like Biden did and he wouldn't have pushed for energy sanctions against Russia in response to the attack on Ukraine. More generally speaking, he would have pursued more fossil-friendly policies and done more to bring US domestic oil and gas production out of the hole they fell into during covid.

The infrastructure bill was a tortured compromise for the lowest common denominator. But to be fair, Trump could have passed something similar during his term but failed, so I'll concede that that's a point in Biden's favor.

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I specifically picked January 2020 as the reference point to factor out covid. ;)

Inflation would have happened with Trump, but not to the same extent. He wouldn't have pushed for another stimulus package in the summer of 2021 like Biden did and he wouldn't have pushed for energy sanctions against Russia in response to the attack on Ukraine. More generally speaking, he would have pursued more fossil-friendly policies and done more to bring US domestic oil and gas production out of the hole they fell into during covid.

The infrastructure bill was a tortured compromise for the lowest common denominator. But to be fair, Trump could have passed something similar during his term but failed, so I'll concede that that's a point in Biden's favor.


I think trump would of tried to stay out of Ukraine forever then would of got pushed into some stupid Trump idea.. NO way he stays out 100%.. he would of never got the full NATO buy in like Biden has.
I thought sanctions don't work bad idea for Biden? Yet you say trump would of done same?
And who would of been in charge of the military response. Ivanka? Jr? That would make you sleep well?
He might not of done the stimulus package but he probably would of tried to cut taxes in some way, again superheating the economy at a bad time.
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Machines could be driving those trains already. Difficult truth.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 3 2022 01:59pm)
Machines could be driving those trains already. Difficult truth.


This is actually an excellent point. :)
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