Zelensky is probably one of the most corrupt leaders in the west. for many years before this conflict. you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Not when George W. Bush is painting him nude.



Pretty sure he led by saying it was bad that Zelensky is lying to the world.



But its only attacked without provocation if we ignore all the provocation. Kind of like me saying my chocolate eclairs are fine on a diet if we ignore all the fat and calories.

Zelensky lying about the attack is not a good thing.

You'll have to explain how it's a gullible take... to me it seems pretty obvious.



Which would land the same place I do, where I don't accept Zelensky's word as gospel, I despise Putin, and I wait to see more evidence.



If those facts you highlighted are true, which we don't know for sure, it wouldn't be him trying to provoke WW3, it would be him trying to encourage the West to intervene further in a conflict where his nation's very existence is at stake.

There's a lot of posters here who would politely acquiesce to Putin rolling over your own nation, but I happen to appreciate a leader who stands up for his nation and people.

Yeah no,. Other users even questioned IceMage on this.
Not sure why you're trying to cover for this user.

To question otherwise is to enable this user to backstep from their foolish exposure.

IceMage repeatedly praised Zelenskyy whom has been known to lie. And is now exposed on the world stage as a liar.

This post was edited by Mondain on Nov 16 2022 06:42am

Goom is notorious for covering for me, that can't be avoided.

Next thing you know you'll be saying that Goomshill repeatedly praised Donald Trump whom has been known to lie, and is now exposed on the world stage as a liar.

Rolling over? No.
Trying to goad the West into dying in WW3 by lying about an attack on a NATO member by Russia? Fuck no!

The encouragement for intervention you mention risks a dangerous escalation and is warmongering of the highest order.

This post was edited by Chainsaw47 on Nov 16 2022 06:52am

I'm not a trump fan, your hatred has no power over me.

otherwise donnie is living rent free.

This post was edited by Mondain on Nov 16 2022 06:53am

Ukraines existence is at stake ? Let’s stop with the exaggerations please .

Ukraine's fledgling existence as a post-euromaidan vassal state of the west is at stake, lest they return to being a pre-euromaidan vassal state of the east like they've been for most of recorded human history