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Nov 9 2022 11:57am
Quote (MadMan87 @ Nov 9 2022 11:54am)
That’s not what the extreme predator advocates say though.


Well, those "extreme predator advocates" can all fuck off. IMO, preference is not orientation, and the jackholes trying to normalize a preference for a subset of the population that cannot legally consent can pound sand.

Edit to your edit: Gender is a wide description, and maybe it even isn't the best description for my point. Sexual preference generally implies some level of choice, where orientation is not a choice.

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Nov 9 2022 12:04pm
I want to hear opinions from & on whether or not Homosexuals should be allowed to adopt children.

I think Sirthom may have been raised by a Homosexual African American couple so his expert opinion on that front would be insightful. He’s also very intelligent and probably has a higher IQ than most of us.
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Nov 9 2022 01:15pm
In America we have religious freedom to worship at the altar of our choice.

So long as they are providing a safe and healthy environment for the child to grow up. While not hindering their freedom.

Adoption is a great option.

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Nov 9 2022 01:55pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Nov 9 2022 09:48am)
Only insofar as anyone else seeking to adopt should be looked into/vetted for suitability. Sexual orientation should not be a mitigating factor in adopting a child.


I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with discriminating against someone based on their sexual orientation. Of course, I know this is a very unpopular stance to take.

As for gays adopting, I really think they should look at all the normal, heterosexual families first. And if they have gone through them all and there are still kids left over that need a home, then they look at gay families. Allowing gays to adopt really should be a last resort.
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Nov 9 2022 03:33pm
What you are looking for should a child be forced to be a Christian or to read a bible every day and perform rituals etc?
That applies to any kid not just adopted. There are shit parents on both sides.

There is already a screening process to make sure parents are financially and mentally stable. It seems like you were a little shit when growing up. Many of us didn't have a choice and were given an ultimatum.
"My house my rules" or " put up or get out".

Just put your head down and bide your time, at least pretend. You may not agree with every parenting decision remember your child will be the same.
Better have a home then none at all, people often forget that back in the day kids were made to do labour, poor food rations and had 0 say. They would see the cane or dad would get the belt out just for talking back.

Be thankful you don't have alcohol/drug abusive parents that will beat you just because they feel like it.

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Nov 9 2022 04:53pm
Quote (MadMan87 @ Nov 9 2022 11:04am)
I want to hear opinions from ^Sirthom & ^JessiWan on whether or not Homosexuals should be allowed to adopt children.

I think Sirthom may have been raised by a Homosexual African American couple so his expert opinion on that front would be insightful. He’s also very intelligent and probably has a higher IQ than most of us.



the sin of sodomy was due to raping, and killing or exploiting the sensitive parts of humanity heinously, given the unironic placement of the sexual orifices...you could say som1 was a divine troll. call it the god of "reign dome ness".

Now, say the god of reign dome-ness 3 times fast and maybe youll get microwaved by c1a airplanes for awakening from a parasitism dream world made artificially manifested by ancient aliens torturers.




Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 9 2022 12:55pm)
I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with discriminating against someone based on their sexual orientation. Of course, I know this is a very unpopular stance to take.

As for gays adopting, I really think they should look at all the normal, heterosexual families first. And if they have gone through them all and there are still kids left over that need a home, then they look at gay families. Allowing gays to adopt really should be a last resort.


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What you are looking for should a child be forced to be a Christian or to read a bible every day and perform rituals etc?
That applies to any kid not just adopted. There are shit parents on both sides.

There is already a screening process to make sure parents are financially and mentally stable. It seems like you were a little shit when growing up. Many of us didn't have a choice and were given an ultimatum.
"My house my rules" or " put up or get out".

Just put your head down and bide your time, at least pretend. You may not agree with every parenting decision remember your child will be the same.
Better have a home then none at all, people often forget that back in the day kids were made to do labour, poor food rations and had 0 say. They would see the cane or dad would get the belt out just for talking back.

Be thankful you don't have alcohol/drug abusive parents that will beat you just because they feel like it.


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Nov 9 2022 05:18pm
Quote (MadMan87 @ Nov 9 2022 12:04pm)
I want to hear opinions from ^Sirthom & ^JessiWan on whether or not Homosexuals should be allowed to adopt children.

I think Sirthom may have been raised by a Homosexual African American couple so his expert opinion on that front would be insightful. He’s also very intelligent and probably has a higher IQ than most of us.


Me smat with a big brian. :drool:
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Nov 9 2022 05:25pm
I’m seeing a lot of “reasoning” on adoption but no one is arguing the fact that the Bible glorifies victimizing children. This is my concern. Can we trust someone who at the very least “sympathizes” with such behavior to raise a child safely?

I have yet to hear a Christian come out and say “The Bible is wrong for that”.
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Nov 9 2022 05:27pm
Absolutely not. Forcing children to learn 2,300 year old Israeli law is child abuse.

Their religious texts are also filled with completely obscene material that should be banned from all public libraries.

Also, adults that try to ram middle eastern culture down the throats of Americans need to cut it out. They are clearly and simply wrong.


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Nov 9 2022 05:36pm
Quote (MadMan87 @ Nov 9 2022 08:32am)
I always found it weird that we let people who try to model their entire life after a book that justifies child marriage and other predatory behavior adopt children.

What are your thoughts on allowing Christians to adopt kids?


I have a twist to your story.
Friend of mine honest hard working good person. But Christian nice guy all the way through.
Had adopted a girl at 6 months old. At 11 years old the tribe got involved and won custody and ripped the girl out of her family.. and now lives in a totally abusive family.
BS is all over.
Sorry about your story.
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