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Nov 10 2022 10:14am
Quote (SharpNips @ Nov 10 2022 08:12am)
Probably not verbatim because that sounds like a high school student wrote it

Employment contracts generally have a “code of conduct” section or something of that nature.

If the employer believes it’s been breached they have multiple paths they can take.


I don't doubt that they can do that, however it honestly sounds to me like a legal way to take away an employee's freedom of speech.
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Nov 10 2022 10:15am
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 10 2022 01:14pm)
I don't doubt that they can do that, however it honestly sounds to me like a legal way to take away an employee's freedom of speech.


Then don’t sign the contract :thumbsup:

The employer has to protect themselves just as much as the employee

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Nov 10 2022 10:19am
Quote (SharpNips @ Nov 10 2022 08:15am)
Then don’t sign the contract :thumbsup:

The employer has to protect themselves just as much as the employee


Or maybe the kinds of contracts some companies require one to sign are coercive in nature and as such, are unethical.

I really think people should have the freedom to express their political opinions without fear of losing their jobs.

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Nov 10 2022 10:25am


Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 10 2022 01:19pm)
Or maybe the kinds of contracts some companies require one to sign are coercive in nature and as such, are unethical.

I really think people should have the freedom to express their political opinions without hindrance or fear of losing their jobs.


absolutely nothing coercive about a voluntary contract, he chose to go there and had several other options.

What does the Kyrie thing have to do with politics?

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Nov 10 2022 10:29am
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absolutely nothing coercive about a voluntary contract, he chose to go there and had several other options.

What does the Kylie thing have to do with politics?


Here, a contract where one is obligated to break the law is considered invalid. Similarly, if an employment contract requires you to give up certain freedoms, then it can be considered an invalid contract. And it should be illegal for companies to give contracts of this kind to potential employees to sign.
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Nov 10 2022 10:34am
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 10 2022 01:29pm)
Here, a contract where one is obligated to break the law is considered invalid. Similarly, if an employment contract requires you to give up certain freedoms, then it can be considered an invalid contract. And it should be illegal for companies to give contracts of this kind to potential employees to sign.


Agreed, but I don’t know what freedoms you’re talking about
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Nov 10 2022 10:36am
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Agreed, but I don’t know what freedoms you’re talking about


Basically I believe employees should have the freedom to express their political beliefs, even if they are controversial, or if they are in disagreement with what their employers believe in.
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Nov 10 2022 10:47am
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 10 2022 01:36pm)
Basically I believe employees should have the freedom to express their political beliefs, even if they are controversial, or if they are in disagreement with what their employers believe in.


Depends on the contract, if you want to be able to share your political beliefs and the contract says you can’t, don’t sign the contract.

What kyrie did wasn’t political, I don’t think
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Nov 10 2022 10:48am
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Depends on the contract, if you want to be able to share your political beliefs and the contract says you can’t, don’t sign the contract.

What kyrie did wasn’t political, I don’t think


Like I said, contracts cannot take away your freedoms. If they do then they are unethical and should be illegal.
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Nov 10 2022 10:52am
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 10 2022 01:48pm)
Like I said, contracts cannot take away your freedoms. If they do then they are unethical and should be illegal.


Like I said, that’s not reality

Singing the contract is voluntary, if you disagree with terms of the contract, negotiate or don’t sign.

what does this have to do with kyrie

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