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Oct 12 2022 07:00pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 13 2022 03:52am)
tell me you're a FOX "news" viewer without saying you're a FOX "news" viewer, lol.


remember when you got caught trying to lie in defence of a mass murdering confirmed anti-White racist fellow BLM-supporter ?

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Oct 12 2022 07:10pm
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Supporting the legality of gay marriage while also opposing the government sexually propagandizing very young children in schools is not a flip flop. Its a consistent position and the correct one.

Anyone with a hint of intelligence and honesty can admit the democrat party has dramatically changed over the past 10-20 years.


Someone 20 years ago who opposed gay marriage and supported Title IX and was against government surveillance of political dissidents and distrusted the methods surrounding controversial elections, would be considered a mainstream democrat. The ones who opposed warmongering would be considered progressive democrats, a small minority. Now we've got some of those same people preaching us the exact opposite and swearing that anyone who isn't fully with them on every issue is a Nazi. Even when the 'progressive democrats' are in bed with actual Nazis. The democratic party changes its convictions and allegiances so fast we're getting whiplash. They have no particular sincere marriage to ideologies or ethnic groups, they may just as capriciously cast off muslims or black men or latinos who always held far more regressive and conservative beliefs than rich white liberal elitists.

The simple fact is that anyone who has remained ideologically consistent over the past few decades must be changing their party affiliation, whether officially or de facto. Tulsi Gabbard represented something mainstream to democrats only a short few years ago, but so did Liz Cheney to Republicans. And when the parties are exchanging places on "populist blue collar anti-war libertarian" and "elitist corporate racist totalitarian nazis", then yeah of course I've left the party. Paul Wellstone has been dead a long time.
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Oct 13 2022 07:38am
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A HUGE Loss for the Democrats: Tulsi Gabbard ABANDONS Their Wokeness
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CKAga-VG_mU/
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Oct 13 2022 08:50am
imagine swapping out tulsi gabbard for darth chenney’s homophobic warmongering daughter :lol:
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Oct 13 2022 01:52pm
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Not even gonna bother when you aren't gonna be honest. I already gave you a specific example of her flip flopping on policy. Seems like you aren't even interested in the situation. Just responding with talking points like a hack.

I already addressed this point, but you seem unable or unwilling to read. Yes, Tulsi flipped flopped on gay marriage, so what? It's one minor policy issue, it isn't enough to justify your far more sweeping assertion that Tulsi has fundamentally realigned her (entire) politics. You won't find any politician on Capitol Hill who never changed his or her position on even a single issue.

The policy issues which defined Tulsi and were the focus of her career have always been her anti-interventionist, anti-establishment views on foreign policy as well as her brand of unwoke progressivism - and she stayed consistent on these issues.


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Your Cheney crap is just more of the same. Democrats objecting isn't the same as a systemic attempt by the ruling party to undermine the electoral process. Trump STILL hasn't conceded the election and Cruz is STILL defending his objection even after dozens of audits prove they are full of shit.

Hack

I quote a piece published in the New York Times, written by a literal law professor, who explains that the objections were similar in a legal sense, even though the circumstances surrounding these votes differ. Your response: "crap... full of shit... hack".
Basially, whenever I point out any kind of (small or big) similarities between Democrats and Republicans, you shrug it away, basically arguing that "it's (D)ifferent" before calling me a hack.

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Oct 13 2022 02:04pm
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I already addressed this point, but you seem unable or unwilling to read. Yes, Tulsi flipped flopped on gay marriage, so what? It's one minor policy issue, it isn't enough to justify your far more sweeping assertion that Tulsi has fundamentally realigned her (entire) politics. You won't find any politician on Capitol Hill who never changed his or her position on even a single issue.

The policy issues which defined Tulsi and were the focus of her career have always been her anti-interventionist, anti-establishment views on foreign policy as well as her brand of unwoke progressivism - and she stayed consistent on these issues.

I quote a piece published in the New York Times, written by a literal law professor, who explains that the objections were similar in a legal sense, even though the circumstances surrounding these votes differ. Your response: "crap... full of shit... hack".
Basially, whenever I point out any kind of (small or big) similarities between Democrats and Republicans, you shrug it away, basically arguing that "it's (D)ifferent" before calling me a hack.


So you want me to educate you on every one of Tulsi's positions instead of actually taking the time to learn about the situation before drawing conclusions. Almost like you're just a hack. She also attacked Dems from the left on healthcare, infrastructure, and basically everything else during 2016-2020, and recently went on Fox to call the BBB package socialism for daring to do infrastructure spending. How about you do even basic research before forming an opinion? Oh wait, you won't do that because you're a hack.

Oh shit dude. They're the same in "the legal sense"? Who gives a fuck? There has never been politicians sustaining objections years out from an election. Never been a candidate that incited an attack on the capital during the certification. Never been a candidate that had open and massive support in a party after declaring an election fraudulent. there has never been a sustained attack on the validity of our elections like we currently have from the republican party and it isn't even close.Your attempts to refine this down to "the legal sense" again shows how big of a hack you are. There is a massive amount of context you are desparate to ignore so you can just call the parties equal. Cheny has not changed her politics and is getting ousted from her party for daring to go against the election deniers. THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS SOMEBODY WHO FLIPPED ON A TON OF POLICY POSITIONS.

So stop being a bold face liar. Hack.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Oct 13 2022 02:18pm
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Oct 13 2022 02:26pm
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/outsider-left/

saw this article, and I'd say it's probably similar on the right

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Oct 13 2022 03:09pm
It is hilarious seeing people who claim to be independent thinkers who don't blindly support the DNC pull a 180 to try and defend them for being called out for what they are.
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Oct 13 2022 03:19pm
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She worked for an anti-gay group prior to joining the Democrat party, fought for gay and LGBT rights during the 2020 elections, and then did a u-turn to endorse the Don't Say Gay bill in Florida.

She's absolutely all over the place because she is a grifter. She's going where she thinks she will get power.


Endorsing a bill that protects kids has nothing to do with her stance on the LBGT community. Would be no different than saying trying to protect kids from wild animal attacks must mean you hate animals.
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Oct 13 2022 03:35pm
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Endorsing a bill that protects kids


Yeah right. Next you'll tell me the wall will stop immigrants
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