No rights to fight for? They aren't the victims of hate crimes? They are accepted by society? They don't get deprived of their civil rights and civil liberties? Their persecution is mainstream and socially acceptable.
But apparently in a contradiction with your last post, you've now decided that we aren't supposed to accept all identities. That the goal of the overarching civil rights movement isn't to fight for the rights of every group of sexual identity. Glad we cleared that up.
And now that we've established that such a line exists, we have to figure out which side of the line the "T" is on.

Because stonewall was fought to get society to recognize reality. That some people are gay, its their sexual orientation, they don't adhere to heterosexual preferences. They were being denied their civil rights and civil liberties, persecuted by the state and police, victims of hate crimes. They had much to fight for, like blacks and women before them. That movement sure wasn't fought to get people to deny reality, and strip away those hard fought equal rights by letting the delusion of 'identity' trump reality.

Sure could. Why not?

It's about acceptance not a strict adherence to a rigid rule of what can and can't be allowed in

You will never convince society as a whole that sexuality needs to be up front and center in every day life.

If a gay man has a picture of his husband on his desk it's "sexuality being up front and center" but if a hetero man does the same with his wife it's normal and not sexual at all.

That sounds like the kind of contrived complaint where most normal well adjusted people would have no such problem today, and that fact is a measure of the success of the civil rights movement.

The group loosely built on acceptance doesn't really accept even mildly contrary views, shocker.

gay people aren't largely discriminated against, are widely portrayed in media, and have attained near equal rights under the law and almost as much right to act freely in open society.

trans people have most of these same rights with a few acceptance, and most of the perceived loss of rights is just that, a flawed perception.

just imagine if in the 2000s when the gay civil rights movement truly started to gain steam if gay people demanded text books have their language changed, that gay sexuality be explained to elementary school students, that people call them "daddy" out in public or be called a homophobe, etc. Gay culture followed the path of least, but still noteworthy, resistance. and has found a solid place in common culture. trans activists are trying to radically shift culture, not for the 5-6% of the population, but for a tenth of a percent.

And yet it is still a complaint lodged and legislated against



Mildly contrary views being views that are fundamentally antithetical to the cause lol

"we accept your identity but this one specific behavior lets try and curb" is often met with "that behavior is crucial to my identity". and that's not only silly to anyone with half of a brain but offensive to many gay people who only found acceptance by curbing certain behaviors. that's not even getting into the anti-woman vein that runs in the trans and to a far lesser extent gay circles. attacks on menstruation acceptance initiatives that are only now starting to gain traction and give women back a sense of power around their periods are met with braindead "not all women have periods, stop trying to exclude trans women". breast feeding was crippled by the corn lobby via formula pushing studies funded by corporations not dissimilar to the tobacco lobby, and yet all over we see acceptance of breast feeding met with pushback.

the idea that "the cause" boils down to simple acceptance is not only incorrect in practice but also if true inherently dangerous once extended beyond trans people. i and many people dont have an issue accepting trans identity, its once that acceptance is tied into other factors that there's an issue. and i like many used to laugh at idiotic "soon they'll want you to accept pedos" calls from the right wing, and now its actually something you see with MAPs being forwarded as the next group we need to evaluate.

Wow your brain does work, kudos

he got a booster DL. The more AI learns from the source the smarter the hive mind vaccinated get but with one downfall - they are without feeling or human nature.
robots in human skins@best. talking scripts though improving.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Sep 21 2022 03:10pm