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Sep 14 2022 05:06pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Sep 14 2022 06:12pm)
I support ending the drug war and legalizing drugs at the federal level. I also support the banning of privately owned prisons. There should never be a profit motive behind the removal of one's freedom of movement. And I would commute the sentences of non-violent drug offenders. We need to put money into fixing broken systems, as that will prevent far more crime than the police do.


100% agree with this whole statement. well said.
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Sep 14 2022 07:46pm
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Please take your meds



please stop drinking:



https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a32892398/what-is-lrad-sonic-weapon-protests/

some of us have to live in the real world instead of drunken fantasies that fit your pharmakeia indoctrination fragility

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Sep 14 2022 09:35pm
The police are not legally bound to protect any US citizen. They will not protect, they don't have to and they won't. Police are a waste of taxes.
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Sep 14 2022 09:38pm
Quote (El1te @ Sep 14 2022 04:44pm)
The fuck are you even talking about.

I cited the protests as an example that police do not have an obligation to protect property rights, nothing more.

If it were up to me all of those degenerates should have been cut the fuck down with machine guns


Ahh yes the classic mow down a protestor. Because what will walmart do and what will all those business do with their insurance money. You need some help, you won't get it, but you need it. What's your name kid I'll look for you in the next school shooting.
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Sep 14 2022 09:39pm
Quote (El1te @ Sep 14 2022 03:47pm)
you're a moron

police protect property rights yes, but their principle purpose is to protect the right to life and safety.

there have ALWAYS been police throughout history, even in barbarian tribes, no matter if provided by the local military or a distinct police entity (modern police)


There were no police in barbarian tribes. You're a weird liar. Were gonna see you weirdly lying a lot aren't we Eli? Gone ahead and lie some more for us. You won't bring sources no, you won't even make a coherent sentence. But go ahead and lie for us Eli. Dance monkey.
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Sep 14 2022 10:15pm
Police do jack shit but generate funds for jails and/or ticketing.
They rarely stop crime they can arrest people after that fact etc.
They can't even be bothered to investigate thefts or anything that is not gun/drug related. OR give suggestions to communities on civil disputes.
Their job isn't statistically that dangerous.
Yet they expect everyone to kiss their ass.. they can pretty much fuck right off IMO
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Sep 14 2022 10:40pm
hahahaha figured out system is bogus but aligns with status quo everytime, trump was an attempt for a departure from that, from the swamp, yup the guy u hate the mostest and bigleyest ;)
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Sep 14 2022 10:43pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 14 2022 09:40pm)
hahahaha figured out system is bogus but aligns with status quo everytime, trump was an attempt for a departure from that, from the swamp, yup the guy u hate the mostest and bigleyest ;)


wut? you are so diluted.. you mean like his unmarked military police (feds) carrying people away in vans during the riots?
Yea he super anti law enforcement..
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Sep 14 2022 10:48pm
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The real reason police exist is to enforce property rights.

Prior to the advent of capitalism standing police forces were basically non-existant, and where they did exist they were arms of the military.

In England the police began from the old system of thief-takers, who would get paid bounties to find and return items. In the United States they started as slave patrols who would return escaped slaves to the plantations.

It was only after our economies started to focus on mass production and markets of exclusion that the world decided to rely on police forces.

For the vast majority of human history people were fed pretty easily. The grain dole in Rome was fundamental to the stability of the empire and ensured everybody was adequately fed. In biblical times it was expected that those who were poor could eat from the fields without penalty.

Contrast that with today where we have enough food to feed every food insecure person rotting in the fields because the price drops to a point that it isn't economical to pick and package it, but you would still be arrested for trespassing if you were to go pick and eat it. Where grocery stores throw out food just because it looks bad but you aren't allowed to give it away even if it's within the expiration date.

This is because our current laws and law enforcement are not predicated on justice, rehabilitation, or anything else. It is predicated on keeping capital in the hands of the people who already have it using the police as the mechanism to do that.

Which is why if you steal from a store it's a criminal offense, but if you are defrauded or wrongly foreclosed on it's a civil offense. It's why lawyers are insanely expensive, so the less capital you have the less likely you are to get justice.




and finally, it's why police won't even enter a room full of kids being murdered no matter how many hundred state, local, and federal officers are on the scene.

Police are not there to protect or serve you. They are not there to stop your kids from getting slaughtered. They are not there to keep you safe. The most fundamental duty of the police is to keep capital in the hands of those who already have it, and keep the ones who don't have it from getting any more of it.


The biggest indicator that you are correct is that wage theft is not considered theft.

Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 15 2022 02:40pm)
hahahaha figured out system is bogus but aligns with status quo everytime, trump was an attempt for a departure from that, from the swamp, yup the guy u hate the mostest and bigleyest ;)


Ah yes an old white billionaire, thats definitely new.

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Sep 14 2022 10:49pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Sep 14 2022 11:48pm)
The biggest indicator that you are correct is that wage theft is not considered theft.


Yep. Walmart stealing billions a year in wage theft is a civil matter that has to be solved in a class action suite. But steal a can of food to feed yourself and it's a cop arresting you on the spot.
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