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Sep 8 2022 12:26pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Sep 8 2022 01:24pm)
i am not offended as i have no skin in that game, its just shocking

you constantly defend criminal scum, robbers, looters, dudes who attempt to shoot police officers in this forum, but MIMIMI MONARCHY is your first response for a person, that was respected by billions

just lol fender, keep defending the trash of this planet


most people respect her because they're unaware that she left 2 close relatives to rot in asylums and never once visited them or acknowledged them because it was bad for the royal brand name. they committed the terrible crime of being born with special needs so she metaphorically buried them in unmarked graves while they were still alive.
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Sep 8 2022 12:27pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 8 2022 01:25pm)
So do things worthy of tourism lol

You can still do literally everything you do now without the expense of the family. Source: is what literally every other country does and gets tourism


this sounds like telling people with avocado groves to not grow avocados and burn the trees because avocados are bad for the ecosystem and they MIGHT make a better profit off something else.

England has a niche, they've pruned it for decades, and it works out for the country monetarily. unless you're of the opinion that the monarchy costs more money than they raise.
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Sep 8 2022 12:28pm
plot twist:

They transferred her mind into a younger body.

Source: my uncle worked on the blue brain project.
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Sep 8 2022 12:31pm
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this sounds like telling people with avocado groves to not grow avocados and burn the trees because avocados are bad for the ecosystem and they MIGHT make a better profit off something else.

England has a niche, they've pruned it for decades, and it works out for the country monetarily. unless you're of the opinion that the monarchy costs more money than they raise.


This is more like telling the Grove manager to fire the people sitting on the side who do nothing but steal avocados.

You can keep literally everything that draws tourists and just evict the royals. Unless the royals themselves specifically draw in a huge portion of those tourists they aren't adding anything.
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Sep 8 2022 12:32pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 8 Sep 2022 20:17)
good video, i just dont think the idea of confiscation of the entire royal holdings on the grounds of "its not yours because you inherited it" is going to fly. even if it did doesnt that call into question all inheritance? how many middle class UK citizens will like the idea of their parents wealth no longer being passed down? or does it only depend on violence used to attain such wealth, and how can u define that legally? is it even a matter for courts to decide? im not familiar with UK court system.


inheritance of wealth acquired through work and effort? no, it wouldn't, since there is a clear distinction being made. you could of course pose those questions, expand on that angle, but i don't think it necessarily follows from the argument.

that said, i agree it won't fly - but IF there was an overwhelming public interest in abolishing the monarchy (which there isn't), it surely could be done in a reasonable way, allowing the living royals to still lead comfortable lives at the expense of the taxpayer, but not for eternity. this video is mainly meant as a response to the "acktshually, they are a financial net benefit" crowd, because the simple reality is that those people and the system itself are not required for it at all. personally i'm not negatively affected by it. if the brits want to spend hundreds of millions to be ruled by germans, let them have that. i'm just not a fan of the concept in general, and i'm glad we don't have that here...

This post was edited by fender on Sep 8 2022 12:34pm
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 8 2022 01:31pm)
This is more like telling the Grove manager to fire the people sitting on the side who do nothing but steal avocados.

You can keep literally everything that draws tourists and just evict the royals. Unless the royals themselves specifically draw in a huge portion of those tourists they aren't adding anything.


you can legally just confiscate everything someone else owns? can you? by what law?

and yes, it is my belief that the existence of the royals does draw the tourists in a real sense. people want to go to the queens house, people want to get pictures with the queens guard, people want a wedding at the queens 4th summer estate she visited 12 years ago.

how much will that reduce if the royal family was somehow legally ousted? idk, but i think its relevant context in the discussion of the royals as a business.
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Sep 8 2022 12:39pm
Quote (fender @ Sep 8 2022 08:32pm)
inheritance of wealth acquired through work and effort? no, it wouldn't, since there is a clear distinction being made. you could of course pose those questions, expand on that angle, but i don't think it necessarily follow from the argument.

that said, i agree it won't fly - but IF there was an overwhelming public interest in abolishing the monarchy (which there isn't), it surely could be done in a reasonable way, allowing the living royals to still lead comfortable lives at the expense of the taxpayer, but not for eternity. this video is mainly meant as a response to the "acktshually, they are a financial net benefit" crowd, because the simple reality is that those people and the system itself are not required for it at all. personally i'm not negatively affected by it. if the brits want to spend hundreds of millions to be ruled by germans, let them have that. i'm just not a fan of the concept in general, and i'm glad we don't have that here...


You've had the Kaiser and Hitler so you should tone down a bit buddy ^_^
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Sep 8 2022 12:42pm
Quote (Djunior @ 8 Sep 2022 20:39)
You've had the Kaiser and Hitler so you should tone down a bit buddy ^_^


i did not. how old do you think i am, buddy?! do you genuinely not understand how time works?! we don't have a kaiser, we don't have a dictator, we don't have a queen, and that's a good thing.
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Sep 8 2022 12:42pm
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i did not. how old do you think i am, buddy?! do you genuinely not understand how time works?! we don't have a kaiser, we don't have a dictator, we don't have a queen, and that's a good thing.


Hitler died in Argentina in 1989 - source: History channel. they'd never lie.
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Sep 8 2022 12:43pm
Quote (fender @ Sep 8 2022 08:42pm)
i did not. how old do you think i am, buddy?! do you genuinely not understand how time works?! we don't have a kaiser, we don't have a dictator, we don't have a queen, and that's a good thing.


Poor effort but eh, was expected
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