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Sep 2 2022 12:43pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 2 2022 11:42am)
Yeah that's called being from two different political parties with opposing political agendas. Obama spent his time undoing George W Bush's legacy, Trump undid Obama's, Biden undid Trump's



'60 lawsuits' are how it got to the supreme court. But unlike your hypothetical, Trump actually did concede, packed up his stuff and left the white house.

The difference here is that when the shoe was on the other foot and Donald Trump had the opportunity to plunge our nation into a bitter cutthroat strife to persecute his political rivals like Clinton, Biden and Obama over their transgressions in 2016- complaints he could have borne out of legitimate grievance over being spied upon and the democratic primary being so blatantly rigged- Donald Trump did not. For all his pugilism and coarseness, he wasn't the one to debase the office of the presidency and choose the path of conflict, division and totalitarianism.

And it doesn't help when the guy acting like a totalitarian dictator also dresses up like one


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Sep 2 2022 12:45pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 2 2022 12:28pm)
you mean the candidate who had a legitimate and potentially provable claim that Florida was stolen, took it to the supreme court, lost, and conceded and was never heard from again on the topic? the guy who most people know of for his silly climate change movie? i hear that Roger Stone knows a lot about that situation, all above board tho, nothing bad there.

now lets imagine a world in which Al Gore goes on all news networks and refuses to concede, says George Bush and his brother stole the election. files 60 lawsuits. talks about it on facebook weekly and builds a movement around the Hanging Chad. then when he loses the lawsuits claims the judges he and Clinton appointed are corrupt and in the pocket of the republicans along with a global cabal of Skull and Bones deepstate agents. and george bush says "guys stop it" and then goomshill blushes.



Wow, It’s like nothing happened after Hillary lost… Dumbfounding
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Sep 2 2022 12:50pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 2 2022 01:42pm)
Yeah that's called being from two different political parties with opposing political agendas. Obama spent his time undoing George W Bush's legacy, Trump undid Obama's, Biden undid Trump's



'60 lawsuits' are how it got to the supreme court. But unlike your hypothetical, Trump actually did concede, packed up his stuff and left the white house.

The difference here is that when the shoe was on the other foot and Donald Trump had the opportunity to plunge our nation into a bitter cutthroat strife to persecute his political rivals like Clinton, Biden and Obama over their transgressions in 2016- complaints he could have borne out of legitimate grievance over being spied upon and the democratic primary being so blatantly rigged- Donald Trump did not. For all his pugilism and coarseness, he wasn't the one to debase the office of the presidency and choose the path of conflict, division and totalitarianism.

And it doesn't help when the guy acting like a totalitarian dictator also dresses up like one


and yet despite the fact that Gore almost certainly won fair and square, and despite the fact that the punchcards that caused the issue were forever thereafter discontinued, and despite the fact that the court cases only happened because a recount was stopped by a literal mob perpetrated by Roger Stone and other republican operatives. despite all of this, the SCOTUS decided the case by December and Bush took office with a peaceful transfer of power between Clinton and Bush and a general lack of mudslinging thereafter.

the idea you'd use gore who had a legitimate case, and peacefully conceded with no further protest, as a parallel is laughably dishonest. im just gonna assume any further defenses are trolling because thats beyond dumb lol.

Quote (Landmine @ Sep 2 2022 01:45pm)
Wow, It’s like nothing happened after Hillary lost… Dumbfounding


lots did, and it was bad, and i said it was bad for america at the time, and still think that.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Sep 2 2022 12:51pm
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Sep 2 2022 12:55pm
Good thing I saved my list. These are the guys some of you actually believe.

Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me.
Fool me 27 times, I must be a lefty.



1. Dems paid for false documentation (Steele dossier), and bought the major media sources.
2. Dems used the false documentation to acquire FISA warrants... illegally.
3. Dems used those FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Republican nominee... et al.
4. Dems got just about every Dem judge in the land to allow idiotic suits against anything Trump tried to accomplish.
5. Dems used the information they got illegally, to harass, charge and convict any and all in the hope something would drop that they could use against Trump.
5. Dems also used this illegally gotten information to start the Russiagate investigation.
7. Dems then got Blasey_Ford to accuse Kavanaugh.
8. Dems paid protesters to disrupt the Kavanuagh hearings.
9. Dem Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, went on Facebook and said: "I wish someone would assassinate Trump.
10. Dem Congress woman Waters in interviews called for other Dems to harass and assault Republicans, Republican politicians and white house staff, w/e they went out in public.
11. Dems, after Mueller came back with no conviction, started in on Ukrainegate.
12. Dems used falsified statements by whistle blower and then by State Dept. members, to go for an Impeachment.
13. Dems, after failing to get Trump ousted started blaming Trump for covid-19 response, even though it's been proven that the W.H.O withheld crucial information from not only the US, but from the World.
14. Dems, after failing to damage the President of the US enough, with that... are now adding fuel to the fire, to incite to riot.
15. Dems then, use the resulting chaos to try to trap Trump between a rock and a hard place... whether or not to use the military to put a stop to the rioting and damage.
16. Dems now, call out their hole card, Mattis, to add edges to the rock and the hard place they've set up.
17. Dem Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”
18. Dem Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”
19. Dem Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”
20. Dems waste tax payer's money a third time with Insurrectiongate.
21. Dems start in on Januarygate.



5-6 swing states ALL had vote counting problems on election night.
Trump may be the only sane one in the house. ^^

This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 2 2022 12:58pm
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Quote (Ghot @ 2 Sep 2022 14:55)
Good thing I saved my list. These are the guys some of you actually believe.

Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me.
Fool me 27 times, I must be a lefty.



1. Dems paid for false documentation (Steele dossier), and bought the major media sources.
2. Dems used the false documentation to acquire FISA warrants... illegally.
3. Dems used those FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Republican nominee... et al.
4. Dems got just about every Dem judge in the land to allow idiotic suits against anything Trump tried to accomplish.
5. Dems used the information they got illegally, to harass, charge and convict any and all in the hope something would drop that they could use against Trump.
5. Dems also used this illegally gotten information to start the Russiagate investigation.
7. Dems then got Blasey_Ford to accuse Kavanaugh.
8. Dems paid protesters to disrupt the Kavanuagh hearings.
9. Dem Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, went on Facebook and said: "I wish someone would assassinate Trump.
10. Dem Congress woman Waters in interviews called for other Dems to harass and assault Republicans, Republican politicians and white house staff, w/e they went out in public.
11. Dems, after Mueller came back with no conviction, started in on Ukrainegate.
12. Dems used falsified statements by whistle blower and then by State Dept. members, to go for an Impeachment.
13. Dems, after failing to get Trump ousted started blaming Trump for covid-19 response, even though it's been proven that the W.H.O withheld crucial information from not only the US, but from the World.
14. Dems, after failing to damage the President of the US enough, with that... are now adding fuel to the fire, to incite to riot.
15. Dems then, use the resulting chaos to try to trap Trump between a rock and a hard place... whether or not to use the military to put a stop to the rioting and damage.
16. Dems now, call out their hole card, Mattis, to add edges to the rock and the hard place they've set up.
17. Dem Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”
18. Dem Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”
19. Dem Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”
20. Dems waste tax payer's money a third time with Insurrectiongate.
21. Dems start in on Januarygate.



5-6 swing states ALL had vote counting problems on election night.
Trump may be the only sane one in the house. ^^

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Sep 2 2022 12:58pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 2 2022 01:50pm)
and yet despite the fact that Gore almost certainly won fair and square, and despite the fact that the punchcards that caused the issue were forever thereafter discontinued, and despite the fact that the court cases only happened because a recount was stopped by a literal mob perpetrated by Roger Stone and other republican operatives. despite all of this, the SCOTUS decided the case by December and Bush took office with a peaceful transfer of power between Clinton and Bush and a general lack of mudslinging thereafter.

the idea you'd use gore who had a legitimate case, and peacefully conceded with no further protest, as a parallel is laughably dishonest. im just gonna assume any further defenses are trolling because thats beyond dumb lol.


Doesn't really help the outrage and justification for escalation at Trump's claim of a stolen election when you double down on claiming Gore's election was stolen.
Its like how the same party that's run around claiming Trump is threatening democracy by denying the election results has spent the past few years propping up Stacy Abrams as she denies election results.

Meanwhile here I am pointing out that Gore lost and Trump lost and whatever degree of sore losers they were over it wouldn't justify sending the FBI to raid their homes and then have the sitting president declare the opposition party enemies of the state at a dark altar while flanked by soldiers and ominous red lights and gregorian chanting. Oops guess they forgot the last bit
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Sep 2 2022 01:02pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 2 Sep 2022 14:58)
Doesn't really help the outrage and justification for escalation at Trump's claim of a stolen election when you double down on claiming Gore's election was stolen.
Its like how the same party that's run around claiming Trump is threatening democracy by denying the election results has spent the past few years propping up Stacy Abrams as she denies election results.

Meanwhile here I am pointing out that Gore lost and Trump lost and whatever degree of sore losers they were over it wouldn't justify sending the FBI to raid their homes and then have the sitting president declare the opposition party enemies of the state at a dark altar while flanked by soldiers and ominous red lights and gregorian chanting. Oops guess they forgot the last bit





lmao they couldn’t have done a better rendition if they tried

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Sep 2 2022 01:03pm
Oh, I almost forgot. I've posted videos on PaRD... of Obama slamming Trump left,right and center for "months" after Trump was elected.
In everything from holy roller revival meetings to nationwide TV.

Anyone who wants, can go back and find those posts. No charge. :)

This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 2 2022 01:05pm
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Sep 2 2022 01:10pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 2 2022 01:58pm)
Doesn't really help the outrage and justification for escalation at Trump's claim of a stolen election when you double down on claiming Gore's election was stolen.
Its like how the same party that's run around claiming Trump is threatening democracy by denying the election results has spent the past few years propping up Stacy Abrams as she denies election results.

Meanwhile here I am pointing out that Gore lost and Trump lost and whatever degree of sore losers they were over it wouldn't justify sending the FBI to raid their homes and then have the sitting president declare the opposition party enemies of the state at a dark altar while flanked by soldiers and ominous red lights and gregorian chanting. Oops guess they forgot the last bit


wow you're making so many mistakes that you've actually roped me back in. maybe if i itemize them you'll improve on your next post.

1. i said gore had a credible claim it was stolen. because they had boxes of actual ballots clearly punched for gore that just had the tab hung up. you know, that and the whole raid on the recount.

2. gore followed the rule of law, made a challenge, lost, and dropped it. its not degrees of being a sore loser, gore wasnt one, he didnt lose until the SCOTUS ruled, then he let it be.

3. the FBI wasnt sent over because trump is a sore loser, its because he took classified documents.

4. biden didnt call the opposition party enemies of the state, he actually said most republicans are fine people.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Sep 2 2022 01:12pm
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Sep 2 2022 01:12pm
Funny how Biden gives a big speech about what a grave threat to democracy and freedom Trump and his "MAGA Republicans" are while his Democrats are constantly messing with Republican primaries this cycle to make sure that these very people (election deniers, die-hard Trump loyalists) beat their mainstream Republican opponents and make it to the general election. If these people really were as dangerous as Biden's (and Democrats) claim they are, they wouldn't spend millions of their own campaign funds to get these election deniers one step closer to Congress, just so that the likelihood of a Democrat winning the seat in the general are slightly improved. Particularly in a year where there's a real risk of a red wave which would allow even deeply flawed GOP candidates to win.

It's almost as if it's campaign season and Democratic strategists have determined that a fearmongering campaign is more promising for their prospects than touting the successes of the Biden administration. ^_^

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 2 2022 01:16pm
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