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Aug 7 2022 07:26pm
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What do we mean by exploitation, did these cocoa companies run a mafia state like the Belgians?


By that I meant they usually pay the farmers unusually low wages. Wages so low that they can barely survive on it. And a few other issues, such as unsafe work environments, no benefits, no job security and all that good stuff we typically have here in the West.
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Aug 7 2022 07:35pm
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By that I meant they usually pay the farmers unusually low wages. Wages so low that they can barely survive on it. And a few other issues, such as unsafe work environments, no benefits, no job security and all that good stuff we typically have here in the West.


Do these workers have access to those benefits in their home country? If so, why are they working for the cocoa companies?
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Aug 7 2022 07:36pm
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Do these workers have access to those benefits in their home country? If so, why are they working for the cocoa companies?


Not sure. They probably don't. And if I were to guess why they would want to work for the cocoa companies, maybe it's because of a lack of job opportunities? Like they really have no choice. This is my guess.
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Aug 7 2022 07:41pm
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I wouldn't say we are the beneficiaries of exploitation. We are the end cosumers of chocolates that corporations obtain through exploitation, which we have no control over.

Anyway, do you acknowledge that we did not instruct corporations to exploit?


The world tends not to operate via given instructions.
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Aug 7 2022 07:42pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Aug 7 2022 06:41pm)
The world tends not to operate via given instructions.


We are not responsible for what corporations do.
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Aug 7 2022 07:42pm
I like chocolate.
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Aug 7 2022 07:44pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 7 2022 06:42pm)
We are not responsible for what corporations do.


Then who is?
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Aug 7 2022 07:44pm
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Then who is?


Corporations.
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Corporations.


And what is a corporation comprised of?
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Aug 7 2022 07:46pm
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And what is a corporation comprised of?


Only corporations should be responsible for what corporations do. I don't know why you struggle so hard with this concept.

And just to be clear, the corporation is a legal entity that is separate from the people who own it.
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