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Jul 9 2022 12:49am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jul 9 2022 06:18pm)
I watched the Ramsay documentary when it came out. I was vaguely aware prior to it coming out. There are tons of other things like it, but just this one time, I'm going to take the other side and ask: "How do you control for this in international waters?"

I'm more concerned with the lack of forest maintenance and upkeep on the west coast of the US, tbh. Far more animals die, far more is destroyed, and far more lives are lost over that, and nearly all of it is preventable. And as maintenance further degrades, the fires only get worse. That's not a result of global warming. It's a result of cash crops that were planted by humans with the intent of being used by humans that're highly flammable and not intended for long term growth being allowed to just "do as they will" as though it's standard wildlife.

Plenty of problems in this world. I just don't know that the shark fin soup problem is something that we can tackle directly without the willing assistance of nations that'd rather just turn a blind eye.


Disown the people who consume sharkfin soup you can unfriend them for starters. They are doing it because they think its cool and some kind of power status. There is so many things you can do to change perception but it takes time. I remember cigarettes were smoked everywhere but now there is hardly any I know who smokes. Awareness was raised.

A simple this is not cool message can go a long way but I am sure there are other ways like some kind of national ban on sharkfin soup etc, maybe creating some kind of transnational waters agreement and sending out patrol ships. Modern setallite and gps technology has come a long way we can do it.

International waters are a source of food for everyone. I personally don't want to overpay for seafood just because asians decided they can just overfish with impunity.

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Disown the people who consume sharkfin soup you can unfriend them for starters. They are doing it because they think its cool and some kind of power status. There is so many things you can do to change perception but it takes time. I remember cigarettes were smoked everywhere but now there is hardly any I know who smokes. Awareness was raised.

A simple this is not cool message can go a long way but I am sure there are other ways like some kind of national ban on sharkfin soup etc, maybe creating some kind of transnational waters agreement and sending out patrol ships. Modern setallite and gps technology has come a long way we can do it.

International waters are a source of food for everyone. I personally don't want to overpay for seafood just because asians decided they can just overfish with impunity.


Not disagreeing. I would ask just how much of a "big brother" role you're willing to utilize the US Navy to play though. Also, given the Chinese have a larger Navy, are you willing to start a direct confrontation should they happen to disagree?

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Not disagreeing. I would ask just how much of a "big brother" role you're willing to utilize the US Navy to play though. Also, given the Chinese have a larger Navy, are you willing to start a direct confrontation should they happen to disagree?


Fuck them. Oceans are shared resource you either agree to respectfully and sustainably use them or we have a problem.

Its a dog eat dog world out there. We have a chance to do things peacefully and come to an agreement, or settle the old fashion way and wipe the other guy out. People are too soft sometimes another nagasaki is needed to send a message. Personally I would use them as stealth bomber target practice. Send out a moles to the shipyards identify and tag a tracking device and a couple of planes from an aircraft carrier doing a routine patrol at night should take care of several dozen boats a day. These boats are usually rusty hunks of metal with minimum security and a bunch of dumb thugs on board so no one will miss them. Call it operation Big Catch

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We have crown of thorns now too.
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Fat girls wearing leggings.




Now THAT is truly a crime against humanity. :D
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Jul 9 2022 07:19am



And there's things like wind power. Horribly dangerous...




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And there's things like wind power. Horribly dangerous...




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Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 8 2022 10:04am)
Roundup and microplastics entering the food we eat daily will be one of the greatest mistakes of industrialization, along with mistaking raising cancer rates as simple a function of a population living longer.


There are a few other factors there: incorporating BPA/terephthalates into food containers, soy and HFCS subsidy, and others that I am not allowed to mention.

Im not sure why people care about micro plastics on the other hand. Polyethylene is an inert molecule that just gets excreted.
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Quote (Santara @ Jul 8 2022 10:26am)


gets even worse, they were trying to ram into people/kill & didn't see a charge or have to pay out since they are closely connected to a judge + lawyers
who made laws expost facto to nullify:



my advice is never trust the legal system ever unless you have leverage or can make it not worth their time via video expose' etc.
Most people have no idea of the real world but if they woke up they'd see just how bad it is.

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Quote (theCrossbones @ Jul 8 2022 11:40pm)
Almost agree.. has created a lot of resistance weeds. Don't know if anything else wouldn't have done the same.
There is a big cancer lawsuit against round up.. don't know all the details.


The evidence that roundup causes cancer is EXTREMELY flimsy, it's mostly an attempt to get money out of the company
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