Quote (addone @ 4 Jul 2022 03:58)

That's a long way of saying I like to dream up fantasy strawmans to prove shall not be infringed doest exist.
You fervously love pointing out any and all statistics/examples as long as they support the NPC mindset you don't ever question. The second the statistics say the opposite you go off on a huge tangent how they stats are all wrong and or just completely ignore it. Let's face it you are theorycrafting larper who thought to take those ideals into PaRD. I am wiling to bet not only have you failed at just about every argument you made here but you most likely got shit on by the power gamers on any platform.

If you have a point make sure to end it with in my opinion and at the very least provide some evidence/statistics.

Here is one for you gun ownership is only prohibited in Cambodia, Eritrea, and Solomon islands. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#:~:text=In%20a%20few%20countries%2C%20including,by%20civilians%20is%20completely%20prohibited.

Look at their crime rates

Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 10:38pm)

i just love how americans think they are such a great nation, but when it comes to crime rates, poverty, life expectancy and stuff like that they don't compare themselves with the best, they don't compare themselves with the likes of japan, germany, finland - no then it's about eritrea and cambodia, lol.

Quote (fender @ Jul 4 2022 02:38pm)

i just love how americans think they are such a great nation, but when it comes to crime rates, poverty, life expectancy and stuff like that they don't compare themselves with the best, they don't compare themselves with the likes of japan, germany, finland - no then it's about eritrea and cambodia, lol.

Quote (addone @ 4 Jul 2022 04:52)

Exactly my point when provided statistics/examples where literally the only places on earth where your theorycrafting argument is actually in full effect and you instantly ignore it. Keep strawmanning shall not be infringed foreigner.

Leftoids need their daily claps I guess. :wacko:

Quote (fender @ 4 Jul 2022 03:05)

that's not the argument i'm making, nor is it an argument anyone has ever made, my brave conqueror of vicious strawman hordes. the actual argument (which is well supported by statistical evidence from around the globe) is that bad guys in civilised countries simply will have a much more difficult time to obtain a gun, and much less of a "need" for one to begin with. criminals, police, and everyone else would not consider literally every single fellow citizen as a potentially lethal threat.

the thing that gun-sexuals always seem to forget while day-dreaming about the incredibly unlikely (compared with the multiple times higher chance of you or one of your family members getting hurt or killed by your own firearm) "my gun saves the day" scenario is that if you live a reasonably normal life, chances are that there simply isn't anyone out there hell-bent on ending your sorry little existence.

let me paint a more likely scenario: while raiding your mom's fridge in your pink anime panties (not judging) at night, you surprise a burglar - in a civilised society, chances are they would not be prepared or even just equipped to kill you. they would probably just take off, realising there's literally nothing of worth to begin with - and that's a good thing, because your gun is still under your pillow in the basement.

people wouldn't execute their drunk neighbour stumbling across their lawn because they thought their life was in danger, or even just because they knew they can get away with it in that shithole of yours - they'd be annoyed, call them a drunk cunt, and that's the end of that story. no life lost.

Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 06:10pm)

definitely a good guy with a gun, yes.

so let's do the math now:

- how many people died that day?
- how many would have died if the attacker hadn't had a gun in the first place?

see where i'm going with this? net loss, despite the good guy. thanks for playing. was ez. gg no re.

Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 09:38pm)

i just love how americans think they are such a great nation, but when it comes to crime rates, poverty, life expectancy and stuff like that they don't compare themselves with the best, they don't compare themselves with the likes of japan, germany, finland - no then it's about eritrea and cambodia, lol.

Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 10:06pm)

you're strawmanning hard again. look at what i actually wrote:



where does it say "complete ban of guns for everyone"? oh right, nowhere. you can own guns in germany, but you have to prove you're a responsible, mentally stable person. it's much harder for criminals to obtain a gun, and more importantly, there's simply no need for it - resulting in significantly lower homicide rates and naturally far fewer deaths by gun accidents and such. stop making up fake arguments just because the overwhelming statistical evidence doesn't fit your simplistic narrative.

Quote (KeeperHalidom @ 4 Jul 2022 05:26)

In the USA you also have to prove you are a responsible and mentally stable adult. Criminals (felons) cannot obtain guns legally here either.

Quote (fender @ 3 Jul 2022 23:51)

can you show me a statistic supporting your claim that "hundreds of thousands" of people were saved from being shot by evil people?
anyway, even if that were true, they wouldn't have to be "saved" if the evil people didn't have guns in the first place, genius.

maybe compare homicide rates in the US with those in the civilised world - and that's despite the US already locking up more people per capita than any other nation in the world, meaning many of the "evil people" don't even have the chance to do their thing.

it's almost like the common sense conclusion, guns being a net negative, is supported by facts and stats, and all you have is some ridiculous fantasy scenario that gun manufacturers and their advocacy groups implanted in your gullible brain...

Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 10:31pm)

you back from hiding but couldn't find a single stat to support your claim?