Quote (YeeHaw @ 27 Jun 2022 16:29)
This topic did not raise the conversation I thought it would, but those who get the point already got it, and those who didn’t get the point willfully ignore inconvenient facts. :bonk:
Skinny, chose to stop responding to me because of my post count (because that matters when it comes to conversing, it was actually because this user had lazy arguments). Either way here is skinny confusing feminism with capitalism :thumbsup: Still not exactly correct, feminism didn’t make women need to kill their children, it gave them an excuse.
You both have a point, to be fair. Why did Starbucks come out and offer to pay for the abortion of it's employees? Well, from a money perspective, a large investment is required to provide the training and experience the pregnant employee has. Further, the loss of productivity for 12 weeks combined with the need to continue paying the employee during that maternity leave is absolute loss. It's a pure expense with no possibility of a return for the business. The cost to paying for an abortion and only having the employee out for the day of the procedure? Peanuts by comparison.
Regarding the idea that it was capitalism that pushed women into the labor force, that's hilarious. That was feminism at it's finest, and far from empowering women, it created a level of competition in labor that turned 80% of the "middle class" jobs of the time into overnight minimum wage jobs. Did the business owners benefit? Yes absolutely. Did they support the feminists? Absolutely. Who was harmed the most? The housewife who's husband was previously capable of providing for the entire family, who no longer could, because his employer fired him in order to hire 4 people at minimum wage. That housewife found herself having to work regardless of what she wanted to do, just to make ends meet.
Another pure example of why you should never believe anything that business owners get together and tell you in a single voice will be "good for you" same as you never trust a government official who shows up with the "I'm from the government, I'm here to help" line.