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Jun 18 2022 08:09pm
Multicultural CITIES are vastly superior in every way to homogeneous cities. Multicultural cities are SIGNIFICANTLY richer, smarter, etc. It's pretty obvious why that's the case: multiculturalism represents evolution and survival whereas homogeneity represents stasis and the inability to adapt to the world. That's why the Amish, native tribes in Brazil, etc. still don't have electricity.

Having said that, I can't say the same thing about countries. Some countries like Japan are incredibly successful. On the other hand, a country like Switzerland has 4 national languages and is wildly successful. Really, I think you need to strike a balance in terms of a strong identity that unites everyone and multiculturalism. In America, our identity is that we're number 1, end of story. I think we can all agree that it's better to be black in America than to be anyone else in another country.
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Quote (thundercock @ Jun 18 2022 07:09pm)

In America, our identity is that we're number 1, end of story. I think we can all agree that it's better to be black in America than to be anyone else in another country.


Not really.

I would rather be white and be anywhere on earth than to be black and American.
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America was built on immigration.


America had controlled immigration not massive amounts of illegals. Also, they either assimilated into the current culture (adopting the holidays, religion and language of the US), or they had the option to move out to the prairie and live apart from everyone.

Today is a different situation. There is now a current established culture and the immigrants are not assimilating into it.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Jun 18 2022 07:19pm)
Not really.

I would rather be white and be anywhere on earth than to be black and American.


That's because you have less intellect than a black person.
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Quote (thundercock @ Jun 18 2022 07:37pm)
That's because you have less intellect than a black person.


Lol I hurt your feelings.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 18 2022 07:01am)
The current us is still a great country only held back in its potential by guys like Thom.
The sooner the racists and anti socialism crowd are bred out America will get a real healthcare system and social safety net and will finally begin to do something about the crime rate.




We're... off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of OZ.

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Jun 18 2022 08:56pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jun 18 2022 09:37pm)
That's because you have less intellect than a black person.


That is a statistical impossibility.
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Jun 20 2022 01:22pm
This is from 3 years ago:
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/12/07/migrants-account-for-nearly-half-of-rapists-in-italy/

But thanks to the Italian government that hates Italians (sound familiar?),
that is now officially over 50%.

Thanks multiculturalism, youer' the best.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 18 Jun 2022 18:33)
Chinese.
Well you can also call USA Europe if you are looking to make that point since majority of the forefathers comes from the European continent and most are Anglo Saxon.


According to the most recent census bureau statistics, whites only make up 60.1% of the US. Hispanic/Latino make up 18.5%, blacks make up 13.4%, Asians 5.9%. If you were to look at the first number in the census data you'd see whites are 76.3%, and think I'm wrong, but nope, that number includes... Well, here's what it says:

"White. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as "White" or report entries such as Irish, German, Italian, Lebanese, Arab, Moroccan, or Caucasian."

So, they're lumping arabs in as white, when a great many of them are more of a brown. Further, they also somehow lump hispanic/latino in with "white only", which is hilarious, meaning you have to go to "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino".

Now, for them to be lumping anyone who looks white with a bunch of people who look brown with backgrounds and cultures from all over the Americas, and Europe, the middle east and... Morocco? would appear to be an attempt to hide just how very multicultural the US is.

Attempting to claim Singapore is or has anything like it is slightly delusional. Attempting to claim any nation in Europe, or even the whole of Europe has anything like it is delusional. Whether you want diversity of skin tone or cultural background, we've got it in spades. Now diversity of thought seems to be a slightly different question, as we continue to use the public square (social media) to clamp down on freedom of speech and opinion. But hey, 2 out of 3 ain't bad, right?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jun 20 2022 02:20pm
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According to the most recent census bureau statistics, whites only make up 60.1% of the US. Hispanic/Latino make up 18.5%, blacks make up 13.4%, Asians 5.9%. If you were to look at the first number in the census data you'd see whites are 76.3%, and think I'm wrong, but nope, that number includes... Well, here's what it says:

"White. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as "White" or report entries such as Irish, German, Italian, Lebanese, Arab, Moroccan, or Caucasian."

So, they're lumping arabs in as white, when a great many of them are more of a brown. Further, they also somehow lump hispanic/latino in with "white only", which is hilarious, meaning you have to go to "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino".

Now, for them to be lumping anyone who looks white with a bunch of people who look brown with backgrounds and cultures from all over the Americas, and Europe, the middle east and... Morocco? would appear to be an attempt to hide just how very multicultural the US is.

Attempting to claim Singapore is or has anything like it is slightly delusional. Attempting to claim any nation in Europe, or even the whole of Europe has anything like it is delusional. Whether you want diversity of skin tone or cultural background, we've got it in spades. Now diversity of thought seems to be a slightly different question, as we continue to use the public square (social media) to clamp down on freedom of speech and opinion. But hey, 2 out of 3 ain't bad, right?


Well, his idea is Singapore is China because we are " 75%" Chinese. But that is not necessarily true.
Even within Chinese we are of different ethnicity. But we lump it all together because of our skin tone and color.
If this was 50 to 60 years back it might be more obvious.

Even then when you look at Koreans and Japanese ( to a certain manner ) they still look "Chinese" or should I say East Asian. Which a lot of people in the West might not be able to differentiate.
I call myself Chinese but even then my ancestry is around the Manchuria Korean region, we do look slightly different from proper Han Chinese.

Further more due to China's influence the entire area have very similar surnames , the only difference are the Japanese who do not. Even the Chinese Muslims have Chinese " Surnames " this is due probably 700 to 800 years of integration.
And there is also the Chinese Kaifeng Jews who are basically Jews but look exactly like Chinese.

So you have to be specific on what diversity is , are you Anglo Saxon White, Slav etc etc or what ? How do you define diversity.
The purpose of this thread is whether diversity and multiculturalism is successful and my take is , very few countries made it so and that is true especially for larger countries because it is difficult to help integrate and assimilate migrants successfully.

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