I don't see how, there's people with a known mother able to read wiki, and the others...

What are you basing those assertions on? Has his identity and affiliations been made public?

"We’re limited in what information we can provide at this point"...


Edit. The revenge motive seems the real case, not some pipe dream hit list given the info so far.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jun 5 2022 08:56am

At first the only information made public was that it was a militia member who killed a judge and had a hit list of people like Evers, McConnell, Whitmer, etc. And that he was motivated "by some court trial or proceeding", without specification. That was reasonably enough to figure it was a far-right terrorist. But his identity was made public, and indeed the judge he killed was one who sentenced him in a trial, so I was wrongly presuming he was motivated over his ruling in a non-personal trial. But he was indeed a far-right radicalized Trump supporter terrorist, hence his motive to target those politicians. But I'll admit it does make it more clouded a definition of terrorism if his motive towards the judge was personal and his wishlist of politicians was more aspirational. In which case he might have held radical political beliefs and been willing to kill for them, but unlike say the Antifa gunman or the gunman who tried to mass assasssinate republicans, he didn't necessarily act on the terrorist motive. Still to me it seems like splitting hairs, walks like a terrorist, quacks like a terrorist

That’s a patriot, not a terrorist

He had a list of other targets... Come on man, this wasn't like the attempt on Reagan that was just a misguided dude.

No, assassinating a public figure is an assassination.

Terrorism are attacks on the public, random innocent people targeted only because they are citizens of a state.

Terrorism is any act that uses fear and violence as a means to accomplish your long term goals. Its a broad term only recently defined and arguing about the semantics won't get us anywhere.

This post was edited by Cascadian on Jun 5 2022 11:23am

So by your definition, any kind of violence whatsoever is terrorism?

If I threaten someone with physical harm to get them to do what I want, is that terrorism?

Is war terrorism?

Was it terrorism when the allies invaded the beaches of Normandy? Terrorism against Germany?

This post was edited by El1te on Jun 5 2022 11:23am

I know that it being a broad term causes confusion which is not good at all.

Words have meaning. Words must have definitions, otherwise they are meaningless. Throwing around the word terrorism willy nilly to describe any form of murder or violence is not only irresponsible, it dilutes the word such that no words exist now to describe REAL terrorism (as I have defined it)

Same with "genocide". The people calling the war in Ukraine "genocide" make me sick, it cheapens victims of actual genocides.

You've given terrorism a new meaning and applied your own definition to it, which you can, because meanings are in people. But you will find few people that agree with you that assassinating multiple pubic figures t isn't a terrorist act.



Do you think the French people felt terror when the Allies were storming the beaches? Don't ask me, ask them.

This post was edited by Cascadian on Jun 5 2022 11:36am