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May 23 2022 12:26pm
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ May 23 2022 11:10am)
Is it about the party or the people? The Republican votes prefer the crazy, maybe they're buying what they're selling. I don't think a protectionist/nationalist platform will have the opportunity to achieve a contract with America moment. The entrenched interests of the political and financial elite will not allow that.

Doubling down on anti-intellectualism makes sense when the intellectuals are stupid. Embracing conspiracy theories makes sense when they keep turning out to be true.

Bush invaded Iraq and committed war crimes, he lied to do so. That seems insane to support.

Trump was the most peaceful President since Carter.

The truth is, they say Trump is insane because they see Bush as rational. The Iraq War was not insane because the entrenched interests that direct American policy wanted regime change in Iraq since before the Gulf War and simply needed the proper pretext for engaging in such a policy.

The "sane" GOP is the party that goes along with the plan. The same plan the Democrats are playing by. The last half decade is evidence of this. There is no democratic will, the policy of the United States Government does not reflect the will of the electorate. But it does reflect the will of international corporations and the Global Elite. Now I wonder if maybe the global elite and international corporations might actually be the ones in control.


That's correct. However, embracing the crazy isn't going to help them in the medium/long term. Yes, it will feel good to own the libs for an election cycle, but those voters are still going to be miserable human beings. You can blame the elites for "squashing" a new contract with America but the reality is that there's no leadership to pull that off. They simply lack the strength and willpower to execute it.

Doubling down on anti-intellectualism DOESN'T make sense if the intellectuals are stupid. Replacing these "dumb intellectuals" with your own is the smart choice. Being dumber than the intellectuals is about the stupidest fucking thing you could do. This is why we need leadership to put us on a path forward.

They don't see Trump as "insane" because Bush is rational. They called Bush a fucking idiot too. They see Trump as "insane" because he wasn't up for the job and he doesn't have a nose for talent. The guy failed to enact much of his policy because he's a tremendous fucking idiot and is incredibly lazy. Really, the only thing he brought to the table was schadenfreude and being able to bend the media to his will.
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May 23 2022 12:51pm
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ May 23 2022 01:15pm)
We blame the politicians because they are supposed to be accountable to the public. Washington could enact policy that benefits the people, but they do not. I could rage at the corporations like I could rage at a wild dog, the dog is doing what's in it's nature. The fault lies with the owner in not properly restricting the animal or putting the mad beast down.

The more I talk about it, the more I am convinced politics is nothing more than theater for the sake of the actors. I'll take a break.


Capitalism should have died after ww2.
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May 23 2022 01:00pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 23 2022 02:51pm)
Capitalism should have died after ww2.


Yea, so we can all be comrades of the glorious Soviet Union and live like the North Koreans.
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May 23 2022 01:07pm
Quote (player11167 @ May 23 2022 02:00pm)
Yea, so we can all be comrades of the glorious Soviet Union and live like the North Koreans.


the fact that you think there's nothing between capitalism and communism proves the same exists between your ears.
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May 23 2022 01:11pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 23 2022 01:08pm)
While i agree the relationship is a deeply intertwined cess pool of corruption i still have to maintain that corporations reap the largest proportion of the benefits. it's the same relationship with dirt bag lobbyists, sure tobacco made some lawyers with silver tongues millionaires by paying them bloated yearly salaries to go lie on their behalf, but at the same time they made billions from the benefits those lobbyists provided. there's an order of magnitude between the employer and the employee here, and somehow the public spotlight is firmly on the employees. the corporations have us arguing about who they want us to, not them.


Why is it the corporations corrupt and ruin everything,
but never who owns or runs them?
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May 23 2022 01:12pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 23 2022 03:07pm)
the fact that you think there's nothing between capitalism and communism proves the same exists between your ears.


Pretty sure I never said that.
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May 23 2022 01:14pm
Quote (sirthom @ May 23 2022 03:11pm)
Why is it the corporations corrupt and ruin everything


Yea, fuck the corporations. Because life in the Industrial Age was just so much better than now.
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May 23 2022 01:15pm
Quote (player11167 @ May 23 2022 02:12pm)
Pretty sure I never said that.


i dont think u were even able to think it in fact.

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Why is it the corporations corrupt and ruin everything,
but never who owns or runs them?


i dont understand what distinction you mean, given that i specifically laid blame on the CEO (who runs them) who act based on the directives of share holders (who owns them).
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May 23 2022 01:25pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 23 2022 02:15pm)
i dont understand what distinction you mean, given that i specifically laid blame on the CEO (who runs them) who act based on the directives of share holders (who owns them).


What directives do CEO's follow from share holders?
Other than, make my stock worth more?
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May 23 2022 01:30pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 23 2022 03:15pm)
i dont think u were even able to think it in fact.


English ain't your first language, is it?
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