Only 200 some children murdered this month my guy kind of a middle low number if were being honest. Thing is people like this think the number is always zero.

It's not mutually exclusive to outlaw abortion while providing affordable healthcare, educating youngsters and funding children's services. Whether Republicans do that or not is not relevant to the abortion argument fundamentally, or my argument specifically

This post was edited by dro94 on May 3 2022 09:15am

Risks To The Baby

When pregnant women use meth, the drug can cross the placenta and reach the fetus. Prenatal exposure to meth causes an increased risk of the following health issues and birth defects:

premature birth (delivery before week 37 of pregnancy)
low birth weight
small head size
brain and heart abnormalities
cleft palate
vision problems
malformed ribs
delayed physical growth
placental abruption (separation of the placenta from the uterus), which can deprive the fetus of oxygen and essential nutrients and cause a fatal amount of bleeding in the mother
sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS)

More trump voters to come.

u mad?

of course it isn't mutually exclusive in theory, i never claimed or even just implied it was. that said, i specifically referred to the reality of the issue, how US conservatives approach it, because it very much IS relevant. it's the whole reason we're even discussing this right now, it's why this thread exists. you might want to dismiss the context, because it blocks an easy yet disingenuous way out of this, but in reality, it definitely matters.

and again, even if someone was in favour of comprehensive sex ed and affordable healthcare (which the conservatives pushing to outlaw abortion overwhelmingly are not, and you know that), the restriction of women's rights in order to force them to adhere to someone else's "moral" code and emotional (mis)understanding of the realities concerning abortions, would still be something i'd strongly reject based on principle.

just because i don't like something, doesn't mean i get to determine how other people live their lives - a notion you probably agree with most of the time, particularly on issues that affect you directly. be principled, don't be american.

It's such a lazy argument to make the implication that you'd support abortion if you were female

actual points i made in the post you replied to:

- US conservatives pushing to ban abortions also oppose comprehensive sex ed and affordable health care
- the context in which legislation is shaped is very much relevant to discussing it
- we shouldn't make laws to force other people to live according to our own moral code (especially since it's just a hypothetical one, many strict abortion opponents still get them while deluding themselves into thinking theirs is somehow more "justified" or "moral" than other people's)

strange how you conveniently ignored all that and chose to focus on a throwaway (yet true, cry about it, but you know it is) remark from a previous post about predominantly men legislating women's bodies...
also, pretty rich to talk about "lazy" arguments coming from the "it's baby murder" corner...

This post was edited by fender on May 3 2022 10:28am

So I’m guessing you like abortions?

Autistic screeching intensifies

It is an ignorant argument to say that abortion is bad in all cases, when you are a dude. so

And bro trust any chick against abortion is either a psycho thats getting owned by the patriarchy or more likely would 100% justify themselves having an abortion.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8769269/Former-abortion-clinic-worker-recalls-pro-life-women-justify-procedures.html

trust me bro Women are for abortion