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May 2 2022 09:49pm
Quote (excellence @ May 2 2022 08:40pm)
so abortion will now be a state-level issue? people can still fly/drive/walk to the coastal northern states.


Good. The less federal power, the better. I've long maintained that the most humane way to have some semblance of a society amidst the permanent bifurcation America has become is for states to embrace their distinctions more and more, a la Florida leading the pack after which other states will inevitably follow.

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May 2 2022 09:54pm
another question is who leaked this. definitely a clerk but for which justice? breyer because hes on the way out, or someone else?

no way politico gives up the source
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May 2 2022 10:01pm
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so abortion will now be a state-level issue? people can still fly/drive/walk to the coastal northern states.


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Good. The less federal power, the better. I've long maintained that the most humane way to have some semblance of a society amidst the permanent bifurcation America has become is for states to embrace their distinctions more and more, a la Florida leading the pack after which other states will inevitably follow.


Its a state and federal issue. The federal government still has an arguable jurisdiction to overrule the states and pass legislation enshrining abortion as a right, like H.R.3755 last year. It would open up another debate about state vs federal jurisdiction, but if the political will was behind it, it would almost certainly withstand judicial scrutiny. But the will isn't behind it. The senate voted 46-48 when it was brought for cloture, not even enough votes to pass it without the filibuster.

Which brings us to the fundamental issue at stake in this ruling: Roe v Wade circumvented the democratic process to let the judiciary commit an act of lawmaking. They had their good political reasons, but not their good legal reasons. The people were always free to vote for representatives and senators to pass legislation at the state and federal levels if pro-choice laws are what they want, and they never did. It is one unelected branch of the government, ostensibly neutral but heavily poisoned by partisanship, assigned by mere luck of the draw, crafting laws. It was never tenable or defensible. They tied the law into a knot and now we're going to see how catastrophic it can be when they unkink it. And there will be a lot of discussions about how much more could have and should have been done to address abortion at the legislative level during the decades the courts had usurped it.
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oh dear here we go. more barricades in the capital. a mark of the current administration. walls everywhere surrounding taxpayer-funded property
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May 2 2022 10:07pm
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oh dear here we go. more barricades in the capital. a mark of the current administration. walls everywhere surrounding taxpayer-funded property


inb4 women dressed as handmaids storm the supreme court building in an insurrection resulting in 4 supreme court law clerks committing suicide
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May 2 2022 10:09pm
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Any middle of the road women will now vote liberal across the board

Let me add women still had abortions prior. This was some version of keeping them safe. Be prepared for all out war on the Conservative party


said war will require actually voting instead of tweeting and tiktoking outrage
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May 2 2022 10:10pm
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May 2 2022 10:28pm
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oh dear here we go. more barricades in the capital. a mark of the current administration. walls everywhere surrounding taxpayer-funded property


In their defense, a man just lit himself on fire there recently lol.

But yea, it was DEFINITELY one of Sotomayor's clerks.
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May 2 2022 10:46pm
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In their defense, a man just lit himself on fire there recently lol.

But yea, it was DEFINITELY one of Sotomayor's clerks.

a deliberate leak like this should be treason charges with a summary trial and the appropriate penalty for these actions. sadly in this country the clerk will likely be the (D) candidate in 2024
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May 2 2022 10:56pm
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a deliberate leak like this should be treason charges with a summary trial and the appropriate penalty for these actions. sadly in this country the clerk will likely be the (D) candidate in 2024


Honestly the Conservatives probably leaked it to soften the blow/make the conversation about the leaker instead of the leak.
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