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Apr 19 2022 10:34am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 19 2022 11:25am)
character defects arent a 1:1 ratio with intellect.

someone could be a heroin addict and a genius.

someone could be an asshole and a genius. they could even have a high enough EQ to know the way they act makes dealing with others harder, and have done a cost/benifit analysis to the point they dont care.


It's a bit worse though when to pay for said heroine they will literally say anything about any agenda to get to the heroine is the point.

It's fine to be a normal human with flaws, but it's kind of fucked to pretend you are above it while doing it and then exploiting the general public's gullibility for profit.

His current wheelhouse is more political than scientific and more oppressive than progressive.
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Apr 19 2022 10:39am
Quote (thesnipa @ 19 Apr 2022 16:25)
character defects arent a 1:1 ratio with intellect.

someone could be a heroin addict and a genius.

someone could be an asshole and a genius. they could even have a high enough EQ to know the way they act makes dealing with others harder, and have done a cost/benifit analysis to the point they dont care.


It's actually much more complicated than that
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Apr 19 2022 10:43am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Apr 19 2022 11:34am)
It's a bit worse though when to pay for said heroine they will literally say anything about any agenda to get to the heroine is the point.

It's fine to be a normal human with flaws, but it's kind of fucked to pretend you are above it while doing it and then exploiting the general public's gullibility for profit.

His current wheelhouse is more political than scientific and more oppressive than progressive.


i think we're arguing different points.

is ben and honest and good person? no. is he smart? yes. is he actually very smart, imo yes.

we can say he's not applying his intelligence well, because he could cure cancer or w/e, but he's wildly popular and successful. there's genius people out there that are lazy and working in a factory, that's the actual poor application of intelligence.
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Apr 19 2022 10:53am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 19 2022 11:43am)
i think we're arguing different points.

is ben and honest and good person? no. is he smart? yes. is he actually very smart, imo yes.

we can say he's not applying his intelligence well, because he could cure cancer or w/e, but he's wildly popular and successful. there's genius people out there that are lazy and working in a factory, that's the actual poor application of intelligence.


Well no the latter example is a matter of circumstance among other factors. Being intelligent isn't a free pass to a good life.

The rest: What is he successful at? As far as I know he's not actually accomplished anything that requires high intellect.

Is he popular? This is a terrible terrible metric to measure anyone by. I mean for christ sakes celebrities are some of the dumbest people on the planet.
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Apr 19 2022 10:56am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Apr 19 2022 11:53am)
Well no the latter example is a matter of circumstance among other factors. Being intelligent isn't a free pass to a good life.

The rest: What is he successful at? As far as I know he's not actually accomplished anything that requires high intellect.

Is he popular? This is a terrible terrible metric to measure anyone by. I mean for christ sakes celebrities are some of the dumbest people on the planet.


He graduated cum ladde from Harvard law and skipped 2 grades in school to graduate highschool at 16.

how many idiots do you think graduate cum ladde from Harvard? how many idiots graduate summe cum ladde from UCLA at age 20?
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Apr 19 2022 10:57am
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He graduated cum ladde from Harvard law and skipped 2 grades in school to graduate highschool at 16.

how many idiots do you think graduate cum ladde from Harvard? how many idiots graduate summe cum ladde from UCLA at age 20?


I mean career wise obviously. We already discussed he did fine in school.
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Apr 19 2022 10:59am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 19 2022 09:56am)
He graduated cum ladde from Harvard law and skipped 2 grades in school to graduate highschool at 16.

how many idiots do you think graduate cum ladde from Harvard? how many idiots graduate summe cum ladde from UCLA at age 20?


I think the two of you are talking about different things.

You are talking about whether Shapiro is smart, and Subwoofer is talking about whether he's successful.
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Apr 19 2022 11:05am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Apr 19 2022 11:57am)
I mean career wise obviously. We already discussed he did fine in school.


im just going in circles here my guy.

i already said he is a right wing grifter, something that doesnt take a massive intellect, but that he's clearly way better at it than people like Crowder or Dave Rubin, and that shows his intellect. hes been in many debates with actual intellectuals, people get the idea of him being a jerk who picks only soft targets because videos of college students yelling at him go viral. he's an accomplished writer, columnist, and author.
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Apr 19 2022 11:06am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 19 2022 11:56am)
He graduated cum ladde from Harvard law and skipped 2 grades in school to graduate highschool at 16.

how many idiots do you think graduate cum ladde from Harvard? how many idiots graduate summe cum ladde from UCLA at age 20?


Yeah, I'm not trying to say the guy isn't intelligent at all. But his application of that intelligence in the debate arena leaves a bit to be desired. He frequently gets caught up by knowledgeable people, and targets a specific market with his arguments. He's not dumb, for sure. Just not what a lot of people make him out to be.
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Apr 19 2022 11:17am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 19 2022 01:06pm)
Yeah, I'm not trying to say the guy isn't intelligent at all. But his application of that intelligence in the debate arena leaves a bit to be desired. He frequently gets caught up by knowledgeable people, and targets a specific market with his arguments. He's not dumb, for sure. Just not what a lot of people make him out to be.


He'll never win his war unless he becomes malleable. But his failure was being at war in the first place.

Intellectual, no doubt. Successful, beyond his imagination I reckon, and now has an audience to appease.

You never win, when you're never wrong.
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