I don't agree with your kind Eeyore

Do you really think Russia has no self-interested reasons for curtailing NATO expansion, when removed from any greater designs for an empire? More to the point, opposing an empire.
I don't think its hard to see Russia's reasons for wanting to push back against western encroachment on his borders. Decades of NATO expanding eastward until it reached the borders of Russia proper. The most deeply intertwined country with Russian history, its breadbasket and host to much of the soviet remnant, seized in a coup d'etat by pro-western forces. And Russia has no reason to react forcefully? This is the kind of geopolitical game that's played out thousands of times throughout history, in kingdoms and empires and city-states. When all we do is demonize Putin and blame his megalomania, we're blinding ourselves to his motivations, hamstringing our ability to respond intelligently. Putin carefully planned out his response, he reinforced his economic position, eliminated Ukraine's pipeline transit leverage, and even appeased China's wish to smooth over the olympics. He's playing that game and knows the players and their motives, we're playing fifty two card pickup.

oh look its another DJunior Russia dindu nuffin wrong thread.

any chance u get to bash the west, what a cringelord.

F off hypocrite

IMO:

1/ Results are shared in-between lab funders and hosting country. It's also a way for the hosting country to learn how to manage P3 or P4 labs.
2/ Researches results are naturally dispatched in-between medical progress and military -defense- or attack departements of each country.
3/ Searchers are probably from differents countries, teams are shared.

The "threat" is when you fund hundreds of labs in the world and gather, concatenate, alot of information, like US...

Tchina cried about this recently, talking about 336 labs in the world: for sure less countries are pleased to share P3 or P4 with them than with western countries.


The failure here is to say these are only "US bio-weapons labs" ... Mostly false.

1) It's not my thread
2) I didn't say Russia didn't do anything wrong. They're reacting to what the West (NATO US EU) have been doing.
3) I'm not bashing the West, I'm pointing out that we don't need this war, the world doesn't need this fucking war.

I suggest blind dumbass war mongers like you and Eeyore should go to Ukraine and join the war cuz that's what you're after.

Good riddance

lmk specifically what im hypocritical about and i'll address it.

some guy from the US who didnt have the power to make promises told some Russian guy something, then both their bosses signed a piece of paper later on that didnt contain that promise and you think that justifies a war decades later.

dumbest take ive read thusfar in all of the Ukraine/Russia threads. go suckle putin bootlicker.



i'm staunchly against the war, and want those who started it (read: invaded) to go home, to Russia.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Mar 11 2022 08:21am

If you think a nuclear power is gonna take this kind of BS you're wrong and it just shows how incredibly dumb you are.

Several waves of NATO expansion, Russia only voices their concern, heh, lets do another round. And then Ukraine plus Georgia, former Soviet republics right on their border and their sphere of influence ^^ ^^ ^^

Dumbest fucking policy you can conjure up FFS

Unless you like war that is

Regime protection, but we aren't inclined to look on that favorably. A sphere of influence is beneficial to Russia economically, and it provides regime security both in bolstering national pride (and thereby support for the regime), and by providing buffer authoritarian regimes that distract the Russian population from what their government functionally is. It's hard work being the only poor, authoritarian Soviet state. It's much easier if Russia is relatively affluent, and has similarly authoritarian regimes in Belarus and Ukraine.

The difference is between understanding why Putin is acting the way he is, and letting him do it. We understand why the DPRK doesn't want ROK / US collaboration, but whether we want to continue with that collaboration is a separate consideration. The United States wants more Western-aligned states. That's good for the United States, and its good for the countries involved. Romania has a higher GDP (PPP) per capita than Russia does at this point. Poland and the Baltics are far more prosperous. Western-orientation is economically beneficial for the smaller countries in Russia's periphery. Whether we want to cast them off, to their detriment and ours, to appease Russia is a consideration we need to make, and which we have.

tinfoil hat crap to justify bombing all it is