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Mar 11 2022 10:52am
Quote (excellence @ Mar 11 2022 11:38am)
every left wing hack defended juicy, when it was convenient for them to do so. they're silent now but the internet never forgets.

meanwhile actual hate crimes happen all the time by the harris/biden voter base, but no one really cries about it: https://nypost.com/2022/03/10/suspect-in-hammer-attack-on-asian-man-has-47-prior-busts-cops/


outlandish as the claims were the story gained traction initially because of the general consensus of "who on earth would be so bold to make that up?". bold, foolish, downright idiotic, w.e. you please. and it turned out he really was all of that and then some to keep it up.

but as the days turned to weeks turned into a month or so nearly all support was gone unless it was his family. even costars wanted him removed from set when he showed back up.

in any case as fishy as it was and as much of a cynic as i am i wasnt going to call hoax immediately because its just crazy to fake that.
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Mar 11 2022 11:22am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 11 2022 04:00pm)
Juicy orchestrated and planned a hoax.

Bubba or one on his team seems to have mistaken the rope pull for a noose. Unless info comes out that Bubba and his team planned to fake that they aren't the same situation.

not that i think Bubba making a stink like he did was warranted, its just that Juicy is orders of magnitude worse. Bubba is sensitive, Juicy is an evil gremlin.


they have mistaken that rope intentionally. that is my point. that is common for any garage, they are in the racing business. simple as that.

bubba wanted to play the victim of a hate crime, a hate crime in itself.
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Mar 11 2022 11:25am
Quote (excellence @ Mar 11 2022 04:38pm)
every left wing hack defended juicy, when it was convenient for them to do so. they're silent now but the internet never forgets.

meanwhile actual hate crimes happen all the time by the harris/biden voter base, but no one really cries about it: https://nypost.com/2022/03/10/suspect-in-hammer-attack-on-asian-man-has-47-prior-busts-cops/


you should see on sites like LinkedIn, droves of blacks and blm whites saying that black on asian crime basically does not exist.
and the ones that do exist and are irrefutable are ok because whites are the morally guilty parties.
and in fact, white on asian crimes are way more often than black on asian crimes.
which is a lie of course.

and even if true, one black on asian crime is one too many.
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Mar 11 2022 11:27am
Quote (SanduLungu @ Mar 11 2022 12:22pm)
they have mistaken that rope intentionally. that is my point. that is common for any garage, they are in the racing business. simple as that.

bubba wanted to play the victim of a hate crime, a hate crime in itself.


thats ur opinion, and its fine, but ur lacking corroborating witnesses like the african brothers who sold out Juicy.

the reports i saw concluded the tie rope was fastened in an uncommon way like a noose, but that it had been present for years not placed there for Bubba.

imo its possible someone tied it as a noose as a joke, its the US south afterall, but it was never intended for Bubba.
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Mar 11 2022 11:30am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 11 2022 05:27pm)
thats ur opinion, and its fine, but ur lacking corroborating witnesses like the african brothers who sold out Juicy.

the reports i saw concluded the tie rope was fastened in an uncommon way like a noose, but that it had been present for years not placed there for Bubba.

imo its possible someone tied it as a noose as a joke, its the US south afterall, but it was never intended for Bubba.


all those garages had a rope like that.

bubba and his team were given one, randomly.

lol.

to me it's like I make a mayan painting with a mayan swastika, nothing to do with nazis, you come in and complain about nazism when you know, for a fact, it has nothing to do with that.
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Mar 11 2022 11:48am
Quote (SanduLungu @ Mar 11 2022 12:30pm)
all those garages had a rope like that.

bubba and his team were given one, randomly.

lol.

to me it's like I make a mayan painting with a mayan swastika, nothing to do with nazis, you come in and complain about nazism when you know, for a fact, it has nothing to do with that.


no source ive found says that garage tie handles, commonly made of simple rope, are commonly tied via a noose. in fact it seems this noose style rope is uncommon, exceedingly rare given no other examples of the noose were found on that race track or any other.

someone tied a noose, then Bubba was randomly assigned to the garage that had it. unlucky for nascar to be sure. but it was a noose, even if not meant for bubba. like i said he reacted in a sensitive manner.
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Mar 11 2022 01:30pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 11 2022 05:48pm)
no source ive found says that garage tie handles, commonly made of simple rope, are commonly tied via a noose. in fact it seems this noose style rope is uncommon, exceedingly rare given no other examples of the noose were found on that race track or any other.

someone tied a noose, then Bubba was randomly assigned to the garage that had it. unlucky for nascar to be sure. but it was a noose, even if not meant for bubba. like i said he reacted in a sensitive manner.


a noose is negative as connotation only if we make it. a cowboy lasso is a noose if we think about it. cowboys usually use nooses for cattle, sacks, etc. not to lynch blacks.
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Mar 11 2022 01:36pm
Quote (SanduLungu @ Mar 11 2022 02:30pm)
a noose is negative as connotation only if we make it. a cowboy lasso is a noose if we think about it. cowboys usually use nooses for cattle, sacks, etc. not to lynch blacks.


i get that you're deeply dug in here but you also seem to be just ignoring reality. cowboys lassos generally have only a few loops in the knot, nooses for hanging tend to have 6 or more because what works to hang a man doesnt work to twirl and grab a cow as well.

that rope was tied IMO on purpose into a noose, that's my opinion and i think reasonable. what fact is that it wasnt targeted at Bubba. and him and his team got triggered by it, somewhat understandably, then it was proven to pre-date their visit. and he stayed butthurt, which is just him being sensitive. but if it were common to tie ropes into nooses for garage door pull downs we've had seen many more examples, and we havent, but we've seen many tied in non-noose knotted loops.

it was prob just some loser who did it as a joke, whether he was racist or not idk and i dont care, he was just being dumb and caused an issue he never foresaw.
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Mar 11 2022 01:37pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 11 2022 07:36pm)
i get that you're deeply dug in here but you also seem to be just ignoring reality. cowboys lassos generally have only a few loops in the knot, nooses for hanging tend to have 6 or more because what works to hang a man doesnt work to twirl and grab a cow as well.

that rope was tied IMO on purpose into a noose, that's my opinion and i think reasonable. what fact is that it wasnt targeted at Bubba. and him and his team got triggered by it, somewhat understandably, then it was proven to pre-date their visit. and he stayed butthurt, which is just him being sensitive. but if it were common to tie ropes into nooses for garage door pull downs we've had seen many more examples, and we havent, but we've seen many tied in non-noose knotted loops.

it was prob just some loser who did it as a joke, whether he was racist or not idk and i dont care, he was just being dumb and caused an issue he never foresaw.


I don't disagree it was made as a noose on purpose, the problem is proving it was made with ill intent when it was used to open and close the garage door lol.
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Mar 11 2022 01:40pm
Quote (SanduLungu @ Mar 11 2022 02:37pm)
I don't disagree it was made as a noose on purpose, the problem is proving it was made with ill intent when it was used to open and close the garage door lol.


good, im not trying to do that. i think it was done as dark humor, but id also be silly to discount all chance of racism in the south let alone in nascar. not that this was racism at Bubba. ive seen idiot rednecks with a noose in their truck on the rear view mirror, thats not racism at a specific black guy, but u bet ur ass they are racists and mean it that way.
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