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Mar 10 2022 12:50am
russia should just launch those nukes and be done with it
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Mar 10 2022 01:56am
Quote (Cascadian @ Mar 9 2022 10:32pm)
You think Russia would not have taken Crimea in 2014 if it were a nato member?


If Russa was in nato in 2014 and Ukraine was not then NATO would feel justified in its partner securing their naval base amid a coup.
If they were both members then there would ne no need to as its naval base and port would be secured.
It's that simple
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Mar 10 2022 05:53am
Quote (PapaPsych @ Mar 10 2022 02:56am)
If Russa was in nato in 2014 and Ukraine was not then NATO would feel justified in its partner securing their naval base amid a coup.
If they were both members then there would ne no need to as its naval base and port would be secured.
It's that simple


NATO exists as protection from Russia. Counters the Warsaw Pact.

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Mar 10 2022 08:52am
Quote (PapaPsych @ Mar 9 2022 11:56pm)
If Russa was in nato in 2014 and Ukraine was not then NATO would feel justified in its partner securing their naval base amid a coup.
If they were both members then there would ne no need to as its naval base and port would be secured.
It's that simple



Your if then statement is still missing a because part + evidence. It's a little more complex.
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Mar 10 2022 12:18pm
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 10 2022 06:53am)
NATO exists as protection from Russia. Counters the Warsaw Pact.


NATO is an atavism from the cold war.
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Mar 10 2022 12:39pm
being french and discussing war :rofl:
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Mar 10 2022 12:51pm
Quote (PapaPsych @ Mar 10 2022 01:18pm)
NATO is an atavism from the cold war.


You're misusing atavism. Cold war never stopped.
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Mar 10 2022 01:09pm
I agree on all points. Huge error from Putin even if he is successful in destroying the Ukrainian army and changing the regime for a time
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Mar 10 2022 03:50pm
Interesting read all :bouncy:
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Mar 10 2022 04:04pm
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 10 2022 01:51pm)
You're misusing atavism. Cold war never stopped.


Never stopped on the part of the US efforts you say?

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