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Feb 15 2022 06:23am
Quote (Birddog @ Feb 15 2022 06:58am)
You ever met someone who got polio after getting the polio vaccine?

The covid vax is not a vax. At least not the way vax was defined in 2018


Rigid thinking is not conducive to happiness my friend.

Even the old vaccines you needed to get the initial and often a booster.

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Feb 15 2022 09:17am
Quote (billfrankland @ Feb 15 2022 07:23am)
That is completely not how mRNA vaccines work.


THIS STATEMENT IS UNTRUE VV

No, its a vaccine. They are injecting us with a beat up dead version of the disease that can't hurt us so that when we encounter the real one we have more immunity built up. This is what a vaccine is and always been. This describes the vaccine for polio and covid 19.

THIS STATEMENT IS UNTRUE ^^

This post was edited by WastedPenguinz on Feb 15 2022 09:17am
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Feb 15 2022 12:34pm
Quote (Birddog @ 15 Feb 2022 06:58)
You ever met someone who got polio after getting the polio vaccine?

The covid vax is not a vax. At least not the way vax was defined in 2018


Yes my fucking father had Polio after getting the Vaccine but because he had the vaccine then he was able to live it.

If you want to argue like a 17th century philosopher and get no where by yourself spewing out rando garbage questions like 'have you ever met someone with polio after vaccine?' then get out; because that is not a viable question in the actual debate. That is a strawman argument. It doesnt matter if anyone on here has or has not personally met someone who has had the polio vaccine and then got Polio. That doesnt matter at all, yet you seem to want to ask that question as if it is some sort of gotcha question. First of all, your question doesn't actual help any point that you are making, second, to be naive enough to think that just because no one on this forum has had such a personal interaction with Polio and cannot answer your question with a yes, then that somehow makes you right? I dont understand. You are arguing simply the existence of something as having had happen to someone that is reading your post. That has nothing to do with vaccines and their efficacy. Your question is so small minded and pathetic. Third of all, the answer is yes, I have met someone who was in the situation you are saying doesn't ever happen. So you are clearly wrong. Now does this mean you will shut the fuck up and quiet your damn self now and understand what a vaccine is? Maybe go look up the definition? Because your entire argument is hinged on not the efficacy, but whether or not anyone here has personally been involved in the results of the polio vaccine. What a shit tier argument. Again, Yes, I have met someone. So... Do you just bend over and give up now? Understand that Vaccines actually work? No, You are going to do typical 5th grader tactics and move the goal post; like a clown. Honk. Honk.

This post was edited by Crunkt on Feb 15 2022 12:47pm
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And another thing, when did it start where people said 'vaccines make it so you dont get sick anymore with the thing'. Becuase that was never true. Why did people start saying this? I dont understand

How a vaccine works, is like this:

Our bodies immune system is a very powerful system. Humans have figured out that if a virus is introduced, or a specific bacteria that attacks our immune system actually starts attacking, then our white blood cells literally atttack and kill the bad bacteria. We also figured out that our White blood cells and our immune system learns and gets stronger by being able to recognize the acids in the bad bacteria. So the next time that bacteria attacks our body, our White vlood cells are literally smarter and know better how to defeat the attackers. This is how your white blood cells and immune system works. This is just how it works. There is no debate. There is no "but what about", this is the easiest way to explain how our body works. How a normal healthy human body works. We have that established? Good. Now part 2

So humans figured out how our bodies work, then we realized that we can go one step further and get ahead of all this bad bacteria. We can give ourselves a small dose of the bad bacteria, and our body will almost guaranteed destroyt that bacteria and also learn how to combat that bad bacteria. So that next time that bad bacteria comes, the body and the white blood cells already know how to deal with and kill and murder and eliminate the bad virus bacteria. This is the concept of how Vaccines work.


No where in what I typed above does it say that with a vaccine you won't get sick anymore from the bacteria. It doesnt say that, it says your body is much more prepared in many ways. But shit happens. Okay. SHIT. HAPPENS. Sometimes the bacteria still wins the initial fight. BUt you have to remember that from the first moment to the last moment, the white blood cells are better equipped to deal with any new mutations of the same bacteria; so therefore even if you get infected again, your white blood cells can still work harder to get rid of any new bacteria because of this precompleted vaccine giving the white blood cells that information, so generally even when you get the disease or sickness, it will be not as bad because your white blood cells are more effective.



So can we stop saying crap like 'well I was told that a vaccine means you will never get the disease ever'? Can we stop that? because that isn't true, so saying/typing it makes you look dumb.

This post was edited by Crunkt on Feb 15 2022 01:16pm
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Feb 15 2022 01:24pm
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Yes my fucking father had Polio after getting the Vaccine but because he had the vaccine then he was able to live it.

If you want to argue like a 17th century philosopher and get no where by yourself spewing out rando garbage questions like 'have you ever met someone with polio after vaccine?' then get out; because that is not a viable question in the actual debate. That is a strawman argument. It doesnt matter if anyone on here has or has not personally met someone who has had the polio vaccine and then got Polio. That doesnt matter at all, yet you seem to want to ask that question as if it is some sort of gotcha question. First of all, your question doesn't actual help any point that you are making, second, to be naive enough to think that just because no one on this forum has had such a personal interaction with Polio and cannot answer your question with a yes, then that somehow makes you right? I dont understand. You are arguing simply the existence of something as having had happen to someone that is reading your post. That has nothing to do with vaccines and their efficacy. Your question is so small minded and pathetic. Third of all, the answer is yes, I have met someone who was in the situation you are saying doesn't ever happen. So you are clearly wrong. Now does this mean you will shut the fuck up and quiet your damn self now and understand what a vaccine is? Maybe go look up the definition? Because your entire argument is hinged on not the efficacy, but whether or not anyone here has personally been involved in the results of the polio vaccine. What a shit tier argument. Again, Yes, I have met someone. So... Do you just bend over and give up now? Understand that Vaccines actually work? No, You are going to do typical 5th grader tactics and move the goal post; like a clown. Honk. Honk.



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Feb 15 2022 01:32pm
I hurd that if you get covid once then ur immune to it forever afterwards. Just like my chicken pawcks
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Feb 15 2022 01:40pm
Quote (swoosh03 @ 15 Feb 2022 02:18)
Get angry and beat around the bush…. Typical lefty. Still haven’t answered cause there is no benefit. Keep being a sheep and listening to everything your told lol. Darwinism will be there for you soon enough


Aren't you just kind of asking someone else to google shit for you and give you a tl;dr?

When he says to educate yourself about how vaccines work, he means do your own god damn work. Look at peer reviewed documents. Understand how RNA vaccines work. At least the cliff notes.

No, it doesn't slow down the spread. It also doesn't mean you won't get covid. You know what it does? It prevents you from getting hospitalized and fucking dying.
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Feb 15 2022 02:45pm
Quote (Birddog @ Feb 15 2022 05:58am)
You ever met someone who got polio after getting the polio vaccine?

The covid vax is not a vax. At least not the way vax was defined in 2018


The vax teaches the immune system to fight the disease, and the fact that succeeds in keeping more people out of the hospital or the morgue than not, is a testament to its efficacy. I'm sorry your desperate need to disparage the vax is clouding your ability to make reasoned arguments.
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Feb 15 2022 03:06pm
Quote (Santara @ Feb 15 2022 03:45pm)
The vax teaches the immune system to fight the disease, and the fact that succeeds in keeping more people out of the hospital or the morgue than not, is a testament to its efficacy. I'm sorry your desperate need to disparage the vax is clouding your ability to make reasoned arguments.


There is a fairly compelling argument with regards to Paradoxical Immune Enhancement. It is likely that these vaccines produce some of the wrong antibodies and actually make the virus more transmissible (although less severe) in some or all of the recipients.

It may not be a vaccine depending on how you define the numbers. It is resembling a society-wide viral prophylactic, which raises the question. Why are we giving it to thin, healthy people under the age of 35?
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Feb 15 2022 03:07pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 14 2022 07:12pm)


I wonder if he would be willing to reveal his financial partners while he was doing said things.

Reeks of a false flag.
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