Quote (crackersj @ Jan 3 2022 07:25pm)

Well considering it healed while we were pumping out all this carbon I think we'll be fine. Things adapt. You can find info and studies that sway either way on the "climate crisis" aka global warming. Decades worth of warnings with no noticeable change.

Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 3 2022 06:20pm)

Before the first civil war, the north had a base of mechanized production, supply lines and raw material mining operations already in place, on top of being large amounts of personal farmlands. The south had plantations and slave labor.
Today the political divisions in America are between liberal urban areas which are densely populated, completely dependent on imports and have almost zero manufacturing, instead being mostly service side industry and white collar- and the rural areas and farther suburbs which have the entirety of the production sector, farming, transportation, power infrastructure, etc.

The United States cannot split apart on political divisions because one side is completely dependent on the other. Its like the pre-communist revolution societies where the bourgeoisie cannot exist without the support of their vassal working class, who are undergoing rapidly deteriorating economic conditions. The difference is that the "parasites" have convinced themselves that they are the oppressed and blame the people even richer then themselves, like the post-communist revolution societies where everyone who owns one more cow than you is a kulak.

America can't have a revolution or divorce or reformation at this point, but it could still collapse into disfunction, anarchy and famine. Everyone blessed to live in a time of prosperity doesn't think its possible until it happens. Even if we've made ourselves immune to the classical crop failures of a year of drought that ancient civilizations had to grapple with, we're still vulnerable to system failures of overpopulation, broken supply lines, counterproductive bureaucracy, etc. This year we struggled to find toilet paper on shelves. If enough people don't show up to work and inflation skyrockets enough and crime keeps spiraling, it could reach a breaking point where you can't find food on shelves. And when that happens, the cities starve. It would have been unthinkable doomsaying before Covid

Quote (Knoppie @ Jan 3 2022 12:48pm)

An analogy for that logic is: It still rains on Eastern Island. We can cut those last trees, it will be fine. Studies have shown that trees grow when it rains. I'll nominate you for a Darwin award ;)

Quote (Knoppie @ Jan 3 2022 01:48pm)

An analogy for that logic is: It still rains on Eastern Island. We can cut those last trees, it will be fine. Studies have shown that trees grow when it rains. I'll nominate you for a Darwin award ;)

Quote (Knoppie @ Jan 3 2022 01:48pm)

/e nvm actually, when you have some time somewhere. Read about CFC and how human intervention healed the ozone..

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jan 3 2022 02:01pm)

Ideally, someone will get elected president that has the balls to hold the elites accountable for their actions and unite the country. This would the best case scenario.

Quote (Nibthebarb @ Jan 3 2022 12:34pm)

So all of the corporations who fund Democrats.
So all of the transnational organizations that sponsor global dildocracy.
So all of the celebrities who push dildocracy culturally.

Sounds good to me! (Are you still somehow unaware that the Uber rich and Uber powerful push leftism now?)

On topic: I couldn't click yes fast enough. Fuck this joke of a country. We would all be happier and I'm not sure why anyone on either side would want to keep this charade going.

Right wing should absolutely want to be liberated from the current regime. I understand that conservatives are by nature not revolutionary, but they will continue to be so until they're done cooking in the kulak ovens. We desperately need to see the writing on the wall and somehow escape this shit. If you're a conservative and worried about "the country" being weaker, tell me, do you think this country serves you in any way? No, it's turned its resources against you. American hegemony only suppresses us. And they are permanently entrenched due to importing illegals to replace the native stock, and of course election fraud.

Quote (crackersj @ Jan 3 2022 12:25pm)

And those shareholders and board members are what drive the decisions on legislation. In order to fix the problem we'd have to get rid of conglomerates as a whole. And the climate change thing (remember when it was called global warming, like when I was in elementary school) isn't as bad as they've made it out to be. It's happening but it's not doomsday. The warning has always been "10 years from now it'll be X and we'll all be underwater" and it's yet to come true. Hard to believe the powerful about this crisis when they personally benefit from it.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 3 2022 11:06am)

Those forces are the ones pushing for the current neoliberal status quo. You're getting duped. Just because they use token wokeism doesn't mean they're pushing leftism. You think rich people are pushing for a system that gets rid of them? Don't make me laugh. Wait... already did. LOL