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Oct 25 2021 08:35am
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 25 2021 09:31am)
oh thanks so much for telling me, obviously in 12 years of being a devout vegan ive never done even 1 bit of research.


Then please explain how you justify eating plants if they think, feel, remember and want to stay alive. Since you won't eat animals for the same reason?
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Oct 25 2021 08:38am
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Then please explain how you justify eating plants if they think, feel, remember and want to stay alive. Since you won't eat animals for the same reason?


cognition and emotion aren't the same thing. plants aren't capable of complex thought, nor are they capable of suffering.

if just being able to think made things equal you and I would be on the same level, instead of me looking down to your level with binoculars.
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cognition and emotion aren't the same thing. plants aren't capable of complex thought, nor are they capable of suffering.

if just being able to think made things equal you and I would be on the same level, instead of me looking down to your level with binoculars.


Please don't eat me....
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Please don't eat me....


Lol, cute.
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Please don't eat me....


dont get within 400 yards of my 300-Winmag and you wont have anything to fear. so basically you'll be a plant, able to think but not smart enough to fear me.
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Then please explain how you justify eating plants if they think, feel, remember and want to stay alive. Since you won't eat animals for the same reason?


plants think, feel and remember. they adapt and communicate with eachother to survive. which is a common thing between every living organism.
they tested this and proved it, for example by putting parasites on a tree, which then sends signal to other trees to release toxins which parasites find disgusting and wont touch them.
however, trees do not have nervous systems that can feel actual pain. that's the difference in killing a cow and picking up a lettuce from ground.
same with mushrooms and mycelium. they do send information, they do have impulses used for communication, but they do not have nociceptors unlike humans and animals.

I'm 28, I've been meat free since I was 15, if that means anything in this conversation.

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plants think, feel and remember. they adapt and communicate with eachother to survive. which is a common thing between every living organism.
they tested this and proved it, for example by putting parasites on a tree, which then sends signal to other trees to release toxins which parasites find disgusting and wont touch them.
however, trees do not have nervous systems that can feel actual pain. that's the difference in killing a cow and picking up a lettuce from ground.
same with mushrooms and mycelium. they do send information, they do have impulses used for communication, but they do not have nociceptors unlike humans and animals.

I'm 28, I've been meat free since I was 15, if that means anything in this conversation.


Being responsive to their environment doesn't mean something is conscious, but it is a criteria for being alive. We currently don't have any good evidence that plants are conscious in any way, but they might be conscious in some form that is alien to us since they split from animals billions of years ago.
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Being responsive to their environment doesn't mean something is conscious, but it is a criteria for being alive. We currently don't have any good evidence that plants are conscious in any way, but they might be conscious in some form that is alien to us since they split from animals billions of years ago.


mushrooms grow through environment searching for food, for example.
they were even tested in a labyrinth similar to mice experiment, and fungi successfully completed the labyrinth by growing it's mycelium in 1st attempt without making wrong turns to reach the food.
how? they don't quite understand either.

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Oct 25 2021 11:17am
i thing i can say for sure is mushrooms dont belong on pizza.
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Quote (iWorshiptheBlahaj @ Oct 24 2021 05:07pm)
makes sense that blaire whites ex is a fucking crazy person



You sound jealous
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