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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 25 2021 11:57am)
I've seen people mention this here and there but tbh I feel like this is a pretty big question that scientists and the media aren't doing a particularly good job at covering.

Ever since COVID came on flu rates have absolutely plummeted? What's going on? Is this about how medial professionals are categorizing or something else? Like the article talks about hand washing and masks being a possible reason that flu rates have absolutely flatlined, but I feel like you'd really have to suspend your common sense to think that just those things alone would cause flu rates to drop 100x, that's an astounding drop.



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/22/science/flu-season-coronavirus-pandemic.html


I don't know if you know this, but wearing masks and socially distancing is also effective against the regular flu! Who would have thought of that?
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Quote (bob(Cs2) @ Aug 25 2021 01:00pm)
Dude - the pandemic made everyone significantly more aware of germs, and more wary of being close to people - so naturally the flu cases go down because previously people really didn't think twice about touching public surfaces like a lift button or a door handle.

Logic mate, logic


Quote (Terps @ Aug 25 2021 01:10pm)
Quarantining, wearing masks, washing your hands, and keeping your fingers out of your mouth works to hinder the spread of other viruses besides covid. The later two I learned in daycare.



not even remotely true, nor is it logical. Soaking germs in alcohol(the biproduct of them) is breeding drug resistance & mutation hence the current pandemic. Not only is the flu a scam but all viruses are deflection for virosa or parasitic yeast. Most people who see a bunch of white goop infecting them will think they have a "virus" because they were told to think that way when in actuality it is a parasitic organism:
https://www.aaas.org/news/hospital-superbug-becoming-resistant-alcohol-disinfectants
https://www.biospace.com/article/data-supports-use-of-anti-parasitic-drug-ivermectin-in-covid-19-patients-study-shows/
https://www.livescience.com/superbug-fungus-spread-covid19-hospitals.html


The same paradigm that use to persecute and lock people up for being overly germ focused about drug resistance, deadly plagues, & cleanliness are now telling people to do just that & in the wrong way. How quickly it contradicts itself.
Logic says the whole thing is a war on rationality & consciousness to see who is third eye blind and who isnt.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Aug 27 2021 05:04pm
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What do you mean what happened to the flu?

We took steps to prevent it. We did social distancing, masking, and sanitizing. What is only enough to slow down Covid is enough to virtually eliminate diseases with slower transmission.

For the flu the wild spread rate is almost always between 1 and 2. So if you cut it in half you get it below 1, which means you don't have exponential spread, and if it's below 1 you have declining spread. Covid had a wild spread rate of >2, meaning cutting that in half by masking, distancing, and sanitizing still lead to exponential spread, but far slower than if we had let the natural spread rate go unimpeded.

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Aug 28 2021 12:47am
I think mitigations from COVID were part.. but I think this article touches on it..
It also applies to COVID itself. IE why is Delta 99% now? And not the 1st version where id it go? etc. One virus seems to cancel out others by rate of transmission??
Seems like its not 100% understood yet.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/22/opinion/viral-mystery-does-one-infection-prevent-another/
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Aug 28 2021 01:47am)
I think mitigations from COVID were part.. but I think this article touches on it..
It also applies to COVID itself. IE why is Delta 99% now? And not the 1st version where id it go? etc. One virus seems to cancel out others by rate of transmission??
Seems like its not 100% understood yet.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/22/opinion/viral-mystery-does-one-infection-prevent-another/


Interesting. I know that if you are infected by one virus you will go into a high alert state, where you secrete chemokines to activate your immune system. That would explain why one virus could stop another. Additionally, if they infect the same cells then the first cells are going to be churning out the first virus and not leave as many for the second to impact.

I'm tempted to dismiss direct interference from one virus to another, since viruse genomes are very simple it would be easy to identify a protein that is supposed to degrade other viruses, or produce a product that does so. So it's likely secondary effects from co-infection.

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1. I learned that the people on the football forum are smarter than a lot of PaRDians
2. I think the more interesting question is if we've truly reduced the prevalence of a disease by 98% and we can link it to masking and what not then shouldn't a mask mandate be mandatory to save tens of thousands annually?
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 25 2021 04:21pm)
I'm genuinely curious why it's happening because you have to be very simple minded to think that washing your hands, wearing a cloth mask, and only going to Walmart for everything for a year led to a 99% disease prevalence collapse.

Asking a question isn't an agenda, it's a question lol.


You are literally never allowed to talk down to anybody about math ever again.

Seriously...


Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 25 2021 03:14pm)
If you told me wearing masks or washing your hands lowered flu rates by 20, 30, 40% whatever, okay maybe. But the numbers went from 200k to 2k. Do you understand what a factor of 100x means? Just to give you some perspective, the flu shot lowers the rate of getting the flu by 40% but washing your hands and masks lowered it by that much?

Sounds like you didn't get far beyond that because you don't understand numbers do you?


A really bad year for the flu results in one person infecting two people. That's a wild spread rate of 2. Covid has a wild spread rate of more than 2. After 10 generations thats 2 + 2^9 + 2^8..... infected. If you cut the spread rate by 30% that means it's 1.4 + 1.4^9 + 1.4^8..... and 1.4 is only 28 people. In total the spread rate for a 30% reduction after 10 generations will be 68, and the unimpeded spread will be 2048.

So by cutting the spread rate by even 30% results in a 95+% reduction in total infections, and that's for the worst strains of the flu.

Now let's start with a more typical flu, spread rate 1.5. That's 170 after 10 generations. Cut by 30% and that's only 13. Again, more than 90% reduction.


It's truly baffling that you went this entire pandemic without being exposed to this kind of math. I think it really speaks to how you purposefully isolate yourself from good sources.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Aug 28 2021 01:21am
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