Some of humanity survived..
Half the world's population died in the justinian plague, some 50 million People..
It killed until everyone had built immunity or already died from it.


The black death alone killed 300 million before quarantine was able to stop its spread..
The black death killed 20% of London's population every ten years for three hundred years..

Mexico had a population of 11 million pre small pox and 1 million after it.. and what stopped it was vaccines..

Before "all these vaccines" the world was a horrific place.



This post was edited by Plaguefear on Aug 14 2021 06:12am

no

maybe later, if i really feel the need, but i will not be coerced to take shot

sidenote: i had covid in 2020 and only found out, because blood i donated tested positive for antibodies



This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Aug 14 2021 06:20am

not only you're wrong my friend, but you're also not any kind of expert in the medical field yourself lol

there 2 types of people taking the jab actually

thoses who are rich/educated because they support the system since its the system that made them rich (you're there)
thoses who are terribly stupid/uneducated and follow blindly what their TV tells them
both wont question anything

also comparing vaccines with previous diseases is completely RETARDED

at least compare whats comparable, mutating viruses such as flu has never been eradicated by vaccines - in fact we learned to live with and no one is complaing about it

the virus is only killing the unhealthy people, if your D vitamin and zinc levels are high, you won't risk anything even though its much worse than the flu

tl;dr people who have no clue how health works should just SHUT THEIR FUCKING MOUTH

it took me 3 days of supplementing with zinc/D vit + many others (Mg, Quercetine) to get rid of this. now i'm waiting to get my sanitarium pass without vaccine checkmate

anyways we cannot stop the natural selection, dont even try to guys

This post was edited by Melatonina on Aug 14 2021 06:29am

World's still a horrific place.

And the Black Death is still around, not many deaths though. Also, not a virus. Just needs Penicillin. Likewise the Justinian Plague. Or whatever other wonderful antibiotic is used. I believe typically it's amoxicillin.
Your version of Mexico's history is... Interesting. Smallpox did kill ~8 million in Mexico in 1520. That was followed by two bouts of some form of native hemorrhagic fever transmitted by rats during drought in 1545 and 1576 that killed 12-15m and 2m respectively. At the end of these three epidemics, ~2m people were left in Mexico (New Spain, it was called at the time). So part of your conclusion here (all smallpox), is not entirely correct. Here, some fun reading for you: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2730237/

Also, it's interesting to think that inoculations were used starting in China for Smallpox around 1000 years ago. Basically snorting dusted up smallpox scabs. Nasty stuff.
Nobody is arguing that vaccines are a good thing generally speaking. Several issues regarding comparing Covid to bacterial plagues and cocoliztli hemorrhagic fever though:
1. Covid is neither as lethal nor as capable of being lethal towards the healthy population.
2. With no mid or long term studies, we don't know what (if any) side effects the covid vaccines may have.

People who're talking about mandating mass vaccination may be correct that it'd be a great thing. Then again, long term effects might be so severe that max vaccinating could wipe out the human race. Who knows? It's not about being pro or anti vaccine or pro or anti science. Science is about data. We have no data on mid to long term effects of the mRNA vaccines. We simply don't. I think we all agree that the elderly and infirm need their vaccines (if they want them). The disagreement primarily has to do with long term safety. The same issue occurred with the Smallpox vaccine. The first nation to make it mandatory at a national level was Britain, with the US being one of the last. Britain's mandate wasn't for 60 years after the vaccine's creation. Why? Well, bottom line, around 1 in 100 died from smallpox per year. But if there was something long term wrong with the vaccine, what happens if you mass vaccinate, and 99/100 die from the vaccine?

So what you effectively have here are 3 discussions. The first is "why attempt to force the vaccine on the young and healthy when they aren't at significant risk?" The second is "Why attempt to mass vaccinate when you have no idea whatsoever the potential mid and long term ramifications of the vaccine?" The third is "Why force people to use medications they don't want when there is little to no threat to them from the virus you're attempting to treat, and how do you justify this use of force?"

Back to the first bit though: The world is still and will always be a horrific place. There will always be a new bacteria, a new virus, a new fungus. There'll always be catastrophic environmental events, and any number of other disasters that put lives at risk. The question is, when 60 million die globally every year from all causes, is a cold that's only managed to hit ~4.3m in the last 20 months, the overwhelming majority of whom were already at the average age of death, worth utilizing the same level of requirement as was used on smallpox, which was killing ~5m per year (including high rates of the young and healthy) globally in a world with 1/8th the total population, but without the testing period to insure the vaccine itself wouldn't be an even larger calamity?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Aug 14 2021 07:05am

Yes. People who can’t take a shot are pussies.

I got mix&match vax boostered, never got A in sociology, don't understand social constructs only that medical profiteers only care about
social responsibility. Before C19 nobody ever went public or got locked up for germaphobia, isolation, or compulsive cleaning behaviors for
world ending germs. Medical front is not funding nazi cia. Articles & vids can never be from credible in field patriotic whistle blowers,
merica was founded on British trust. I can't think for myself, germs wipe my ass, am a mind controlled clown.
FauciGates 2021!



This post was edited by lodd222 on Aug 14 2021 07:41am

Accepting the opinions of professionals/experts and taking the actions they recommend is something every person does in their life, all the time. It's not blindly accepting... people with a major health diagnosis like cancer may seek a second or third opinion. But if they log onto the internet and run across non-experts spouting about how the cancer should be treated with some Chinese herbs, a responsible friend or family member would tell them, in a loving way, they are being unreasonable and reckless.

It's basically the same situation here. People with no education or experience in the particular field going against the advice of experts, because they "did their own research".

This post was edited by IceMage on Aug 14 2021 08:01am

This kind of thinking is called "splitting", it's IMO a bordeline trait, and is relevant to uneducated & sociopathic people.

those people deserve it

Have you spoken with your doctor? Have you sought a second and third opinion? Have you had any discussions regarding potential allergies? Have you asked questions regarding your doctor's concerns (if any) of the lack of mid and long term studies for side effects?

Bottom line is, when people say stupid shit like:



They're directly contradicting the actual experts. The "experts" recommend to speak to your doctor. Every person is unique and has a unique healthcare history. Your doctor is going to be the best informed.

And the fact that the mRNA vaccines have no mid or long term studies for side effects. None. It's simple fact. You know, science? Or in this case, lack thereof. We don't think there will be long term complications. Do we know? Absolutely not, it's not knowable.

Back that with the fact that the "experts" have been indemnified of any responsibility for complications resulting from the vaccines, and it doesn't take a genius to start looking at personal risk analysis.

Last but not least: "Experts" do NOT tell their patients what to do. They present the patient their options, and leave the ultimate decisions up to the patient. And even in cases where the doctor disagrees with the patient, it is still the patient's decision.

You speak, IceMage, of people with no education or expertise in a particular field going against the advice of experts, but that's EXACTLY what you're doing. Year 1 medical school, every single one of these "experts" learn that you do NOT tell your patients what to do. You advise and leave the decisions up to them. And you DO inform them of all potential side effects, risks of failure, and other concerns (such as no mid or long term studies for side effects).

And you speak of people with Cancer and act as though they all accept what the "experts" tell them. All too many, however, simply opt to let it run it's course. Everyone dies.