Quote (Skinned @ Jul 13 2021 09:24pm)

What you are talking about is called functional stratification and most people recognize it as the correct social order without knowing the term etc.

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Quote (Tpot @ Jul 14 2021 11:49am)

Are you aware of how the law system in the United States functions? I can legally grow, buy and smoke marijuana. I'm pretty sure if you get caught with a gram of it in Russia, you're pretty much sentenced to death.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 13 2021 10:04pm)

Cannabis in Russia is illegal. Possession of up to 6 grams (or two grams of hashish) is an administrative offense, punishable by a fine or detention of 15 days. Possession of larger amounts is a criminal offense.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 13 2021 03:22pm)

Not in the long run though. The Soviet Union and it's satellites collapsed economically in 89/90 and their people suffered a steeeep decline in their standard of living from which they still have not recovered to this day. Same story in Venezuela and Argentina when they tried communist or far-left economic policies.

Communism in China was an abject failure which culminated in the Great Leap Forward (into mass famine and 50m casualties) before the country embraced capitalist policies under Deng Xiaoping and started to flourish. Dito for Vietnam, which is successful with a state capitalism model similar to China's. Laos and Cambodia remain poorhouses.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 13 2021 07:04pm)

Cannabis in Russia is illegal. Possession of up to 6 grams (or two grams of hashish) is an administrative offense, punishable by a fine or detention of 15 days. Possession of larger amounts is a criminal offense.

Quote (Tpot @ Jul 13 2021 06:10pm)

I still don't quite understand how people honestly think that everything people contribute to society is equal and that capitalism is bad. People tend to always say that "they didn't do it right", or say that the United States or Western governments interfered. There's probably a reason that communist regimes continue to fall as fast as they go up. They're inferior to freedom, and it doesn't take long for people to realize that. Utopia does not exist, and people are corrupt.

Edit: I am not a scholar on the whole Utopian socialism stuff, or Marxism or anything. I just fail to understand how anyone believes that the fruits of flipping a burger should be given equally to someone who saves your life. I'm sure that in an absolute perfect world, anything would work perfectly. However, people are lazy and greedy, and those fuel corruption.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 14 2021 01:14am)

I mean, when you look at "long term" you have to contend with the U.S. actively destabilizing their governments.

It's hard to tell if these systems would have worked in the long term if they were actually left alone.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 13 2021 08:13pm)

Shame, because it was legal under Stalin and they even had cannabis growing contests.

Quote (proccy @ 14 Jul 2021 00:20)

stupid idiots should have been growing opium which actually suppresses appetite