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Jun 8 2021 04:34am
Quote (UmadLoL @ Jun 8 2021 07:55pm)
No it’s just annoying hearing about businesses suffering because stuck up ex employees refuse to come back to work. People have no respect these days for business owners, the same people paying their mortgages or rent.


Yeah because business owners do not profit from this situation at all, get real.
If they were not getting more benefit than the employee they wouldn't hire them, that's how capitalism works.
Cry me a river for the douchebag employer.


This post was edited by Plaguefear on Jun 8 2021 04:35am
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Jun 8 2021 04:50am
Quote (UmadLoL @ Jun 8 2021 11:55am)
No it’s just annoying hearing about businesses suffering because stuck up ex employees refuse to come back to work. People have no respect these days for business owners, the same people paying their mortgages or rent.


My heart is warmed when businesses suffer because they're not willing to pay their employees adequately.

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You mean like how business owners take advantage of workers to do work they do not want to do themselves and leech off their productivity?


You are doing the same thing in reverse. Business owners provide a necessary service, almost always work, and take on the entirety of the risk.

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No it’s just annoying hearing about businesses suffering because stuck up ex employees refuse to come back to work. People have no respect these days for business owners, the same people paying their mortgages or rent.


Then pay them more. Businesses do not have a right to labor.
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Jun 8 2021 07:11am
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You are doing the same thing in reverse. Business owners provide a necessary service, almost always work, and take on the entirety of the risk.



Then pay them more. Businesses do not have a right to labor.


i agree, but certain people have to realise that you wont make 25 bucks an hour frying potatoes

the entitlement is off the charts and the state is encouraging this by providing inflated benefits

the crash is gonna be so bad
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Jun 8 2021 08:22am
I get that Gig economy jobs could be less stressful for things where you don't have to work in an actual work environment but in what universe could someone convince themselves that is a better financial option than just working a corporate retail/service job that is 10-15 dollars an hour but the company will match 401k investment.

Think some of the doordash/uber people are stupid tbh.
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Jun 8 2021 08:45am
Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Jun 8 2021 10:22am)
I get that Gig economy jobs could be less stressful for things where you don't have to work in an actual work environment but in what universe could someone convince themselves that is a better financial option than just working a corporate retail/service job that is 10-15 dollars an hour but the company will match 401k investment.

Think some of the doordash/uber people are stupid tbh.


not really - can use that additional time to invest, learn, and hone a new skill which could potentially be a better pay off than the 401k.

the 401k matching is definitely a good perk, but, the time invested in that job is probably not as worth it.
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Jun 8 2021 09:27am
Quote (UmadLoL @ Jun 8 2021 05:55am)
No it’s just annoying hearing about businesses suffering because stuck up ex employees refuse to come back to work. People have no respect these days for business owners, the same people paying their mortgages or rent.


Dumbass has dumb take.
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Jun 8 2021 09:31am
Gov't is making it pretty convenient to be unemployed. Their teet runneth over with milk.
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Jun 8 2021 09:56am
its not just retail/food. my work can not find entry level assemblers or fabrication workers. we pay like 16-18$/hour and all of the young guys who normally come in are sitting at home on unemployment for now. temp agencies cant even get us people....

i dont blame them, i'd take a 2$ pay cut to sit at home and fish all summer too.

Quote (Budgeting @ Jun 8 2021 09:45am)
not really - can use that additional time to invest, learn, and hone a new skill which could potentially be a better pay off than the 401k.

the 401k matching is definitely a good perk, but, the time invested in that job is probably not as worth it.


GL beating my 401k with that new wood carving skill!

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 8 2021 09:58am
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its not just retail/food. my work can not find entry level assemblers or fabrication workers. we pay like 16-18$/hour and all of the young guys who normally come in are sitting at home on unemployment for now. temp agencies cant even get us people....

i dont blame them, i'd take a 2$ pay cut to sit at home and fish all summer too.



GL beating my 401k with that new wood carving skill!


focused on 1 part of my sentence. new skill could also be additional education so they dont have to work the low-skill set retail job.

look at whats going on with WSB and retail investment community. with the time on hand, people learned to invest or get involved in the market and could take that further. if they are disciplined and develop their knowledge further why not invest full time if they can make an equivalent, if not more, for less overall time worked. the key is not to work more, but to increase earnings per hour and maximize other freedoms.

i agree with you that it may not beat the returns, but, supplementing investing with monetizing a hobby that people enjoy doing might be more worthwhile than working and dealing with shitty customers + bosses lol

fyi, my buddy started wood carving and invested in a 3-d print machine to help him out and sells wood signs, tables, etc. he's starting to pick up. will check back with you how he does in 1 yr, although, he does work full time as an engineer and has no plans to exit his job right now so not the demographic we are talking about lol

This post was edited by Budgeting on Jun 8 2021 10:30am
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