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May 29 2021 08:35pm
Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ May 29 2021 10:13pm)
Good luck. Hope things goes well for you.


so do i been away from gf for too long :O just want to be there than don't care about this c19 bs anymore....
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May 29 2021 08:46pm
Quote (GarryGarry @ May 29 2021 10:35pm)
so do i been away from gf for too long :O just want to be there than don't care about this c19 bs anymore....


Yeah lot of people waking up to that hoax.
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May 29 2021 09:07pm
Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ May 29 2021 10:26am)
Why can't you guys have free healthcare and a normal up to date voting system?

You guys call yourself the best country in the world yet behind Nigeria when it come down to being a first world country.


We can't have those things because the cost of health care is over over over priced. For example the cost of insulin should be magnitudes cheaper, it was invented in 1923 and given away as free. Same for x-ray, invented in 1895, but still hundred or more per scan. Even for fluffy, about $100 a scan. Health care industry is greedy as fuck.

Edit: Cost of child birthing services as well is usually well over $10k, easily much more.

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Quote (Calipso @ May 29 2021 09:14pm)
You don't have to be a neo-nazi to dislike Jewish people. Quite a few black people and Hispanics in New York City despise them.

Mmmmhmm.


Thanks for being honest about the group you're talking about.

There's no reason to bring up religion when talking about wealth. That is literally one of the dogwhistles used by neo-nazis, so even if you don't believe in exterminating jews you are in their company.
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May 29 2021 09:29pm
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We can't have those things because the cost of health care is over over over priced. For example the cost of insulin should be magnitudes cheaper, it was invented in 1923 and given away as free. Same for x-ray, invented in 1895, but still hundred or more per scan. Even for fluffy, about $100 a scan. Health care industry is greedy as fuck.

Edit: Cost of child birthing services as well is usually well over $10k, easily much more.


Lots of work is done on the public dime then licensed by pharmaceutical companies.

One thing is industry is insanely inefficient. People say "Oh the free market makes companies efficient". Those people have never worked with large companies. My lab does the same work for 30k in the same time frame as a pharmaceutical company for hundreds of thousands. A pharma company sent us a drug and a mouse protocol. They use single-use gavage needles to give oral doses to mice. They're like $10 each. We use one $50 metal gavage needle for years. Once your technique is down they're far easier to use than the flexible pieces of crap they recommended.

Industry in virtually everything related to healthcare is insanely inefficient.
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May 29 2021 09:32pm
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Thanks for being honest about the group you're talking about.

There's no reason to bring up religion when talking about wealth. That is literally one of the dogwhistles used by neo-nazis, so even if you don't believe in exterminating jews you are in their company.


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Why can't you guys have free healthcare and a normal up to date voting system?

You guys call yourself the best country in the world yet behind Nigeria when it come down to being a first world country.


Its a bit complicated because China bribes our politicians and FBI into committing seppuku.
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May 29 2021 09:52pm
Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ May 29 2021 11:26am)
Why can't you guys have free healthcare and a normal up to date voting system?

You guys call yourself the best country in the world yet behind Nigeria when it come down to being a first world country.


Because we prefer freedom and choice.

Hope this helps.
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May 29 2021 09:56pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 29 2021 10:29pm)
Lots of work is done on the public dime then licensed by pharmaceutical companies.

One thing is industry is insanely inefficient. People say "Oh the free market makes companies efficient". Those people have never worked with large companies. My lab does the same work for 30k in the same time frame as a pharmaceutical company for hundreds of thousands. A pharma company sent us a drug and a mouse protocol. They use single-use gavage needles to give oral doses to mice. They're like $10 each. We use one $50 metal gavage needle for years. Once your technique is down they're far easier to use than the flexible pieces of crap they recommended.

Industry in virtually everything related to healthcare is insanely inefficient.


Can't argue the ineffencies, but health care is very far from a free market model.
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May 29 2021 10:17pm
Quote (said_aouita @ 29 May 2021 20:52)
Because we prefer freedom and choice.

Hope this helps.


Do we? The Controlled Substances Act would tend to disagree.

Our laws actively prevent the freedom to treat your own health, and the choice of what to use to do so.

Why does the CVS brand Albuterol Inhaler require a prescription in the US, and why does it cost $50, yet you can get the exact same CVS brand inhaler in Mexico without prescription for $5-$7?

As it turns out, our healthcare system as a whole is far more controlled and has much greater legal protectionism applied than nearly any nation on earth. Far from being a "free" or even "fair" market, it's currently used as a captive market, where the simplest medications for lifelong ailments require hundreds in doctors fees and prescription costs every month, yet would cost less than a Pizza per month elsewhere.

Our problems have absolutely nothing to do with private vs public healthcare, and everything to do with the extreme control we've allowed to be inflicted upon our personal health.
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