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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 25 2021 01:09pm)
Didn't the last California Governor recall result in the Governator gaining the seat? Genuinely curious why you think the left has a better shot than the right on this one. Recalls are a shaky thing, because it's just two questions. Should he be recalled, and if over 50% vote yes, then who should take his spot with a list of names that can be hundreds long. The name recognition factor may very well weigh very heavily in Jenner's favor. On the flipside, if it's a massively watered down field, it'd very likely weigh heavily against "real politicians" that the majority have never heard of.


California is a way different state now than it was in 2003.

Newsom won’t lose but if he did it would be to another Democrat. The Central Valley morons won’t win this.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Apr 25 2021 03:12pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 25 Apr 2021 14:03)
The Democratic incumbent back in 2003 was significantly more unpopular than Newsom is today. And California was a significantly more light-to-medium blue state compared with it's present, deep-blue hue.


If I had to put numbers to it:

chance for the recall to go through: 40%
chance for the Republican to win if there is a recall election: 25%.



So all in all, I would say there's a 60% chance that Newsom remains governor, 30% chance for a more leftist Dem succeeding him, and a 10% chance for a Republican to follow the footsteps of the Governator.


Interesting. I'd flip your first number: Chance for recall to go through 25%, chance for a republican to win: 40%.

Again, it's not a standard election. It's the same ballot. And it doesn't go through the party process. Anyone's name can be on the ballot. No primaries. There were 135 candidates on the ballot in 2003. There could potentially be more if this were to go through.

My doubts as to whether there will be a recall vote or not are much lower than they were a month ago. It's looking more and more like it will happen. As I say, I give it a 25% shot that the vote will end in a "yes". That being said, given the lack of primaries and watered down state the candidate field will be in...

"Well, I don't know who all these other people are, but I know who Caitlyn Jenner is, and she's trans, so I'll vote for her!" could very likely win the day.

Also note, before you write off California: There are more Republican voters in California than any other state in the nation. And democratic voter turnout in California tends to be rather low in off years. You claim that California was light blue in 2003, but that's simply not true. They were very blue in 2000, with the vote for gore winning by 1.3 million votes (53.45% vs 41.65%). The irony isn't the leaning, it's that Trump gained more votes in California in 2020 than Gore did in 2000. There are a LOT of republican voters in California. Just not as many as Democrats. And both Republicans AND Democrats are going to be faced with the problem of "who are all these people" if faced with a ballot that has 100+ names on it, rather than the 5-10 they're used to in a standard Governor election.

Anyhow, just my thoughts.

Quote (inkanddagger @ 25 Apr 2021 14:10)
California is a way different state now than it was in 2003.

Newsom won’t lose but if he did it would be to another Democrat. The Central Valley morons won’t win this.


Don't think he'll be recalled either. But if he is, I think you're underestimating the wrench the recall throws into things regarding candidate pools.

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I'm so anti-trans that I'd probably vote for Trump over this person.
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not surprising. We have a guy with mental issues as assistant health secretary of US.
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Quote (IceMage @ Apr 26 2021 04:23pm)
I'm so anti-trans that I'd probably vote for Trump over this person.


You still refered to them as a person, so you're not nearly the most anti-trans person I've ever seen.
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Quote (Greater @ Apr 24 2021 05:15am)
You made it a point to call her a he, huh?


better call him a her or he will kick your azz
Ben Shapiro debates Zoey Tur on Caitlyn Jenner: "You're going home in an ambulance"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bB0Tpotg_I
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Apr 27 2021 03:16am
Using some kind of powerful logic i think this archetype is probably less dangerous than "religious", "pro-gun", "caviar left", or "openly self-made fiscally conservative -lol-" candidates.
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Quote (TiStuff @ 27 Apr 2021 03:10)
better call him a her or he will kick your azz
Ben Shapiro debates Zoey Tur on Caitlyn Jenner: "You're going home in an ambulance"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bB0Tpotg_I



More like an the angel of cancel culture passes over your household
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Apr 27 2021 06:18am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 27 Apr 2021 11:16)
Using some kind of powerful logic i think this archetype is probably less dangerous than "religious", "pro-gun", "caviar left", or "openly self-made fiscally conservative -lol-" candidates.


It really depends on Jenner's exact stances. In a best case scenario, she could be some sort of "sane" transgender person who just does her own thing without making a fuss or trying to aggressively force the rest of society to accommodate her delusions. In this scenario, she could pave the way for a possible conservative/Republican answer to the transgender issue: "it's okay to be trans, but everything that follows from this fact is your personal problem".

In a worst case scenario, she is a batshit insane, blatantly incompetent single-issue candidate who tarnishes the entire GOP brand on a national scale.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 27 2021 05:18am)
It really depends on Jenner's exact stances. In a best case scenario, she could be some sort of "sane" transgender person who just does her own thing without making a fuss or trying to aggressively force the rest of society to accommodate her delusions. In this scenario, she could pave the way for a possible conservative/Republican answer to the transgender issue: "it's okay to be trans, but everything that follows from this fact is your personal problem".

In a worst case scenario, she is a batshit insane, blatantly incompetent single-issue candidate who tarnishes the entire GOP brand on a national scale.


" aggressively force the rest of society to accommodate her delusions"
(like this?)
better call him a her or he will kick your azz
Ben Shapiro debates Zoey Tur on Caitlyn Jenner: "You're going home in an ambulance"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bB0Tpotg_I


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