I've read your comments in this sub-forum for a couple of weeks and in my opinion, you seem to judge anyone to the right of JFK is "far right".

Nah, I wouldn't say Biden is far-right. He's pretty firmly center-right by the world standard, and pretty close to center in the American standard.

Libertarians have always been far-right in America, even within the limited spectrum of America.

By the standard of the rest of the world America's libertarians are ridiculously far right to the point of absurdity. In America, they're just regular far-right.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 8 2021 10:30am

*Left Libertarians Exist*

"And i took that personally"

Yep, just not in America

i'm a left leaning libertarian. as proven by dozens of political compass tests we've done in pard and ive done elsewhere.

i guess we lack representation in many cases, but not all cases. Gary Johnson was too far left for traditional Libertarians like Cam. Even in the "toss ur vote away" circle the right leaning libs wrote in or didn't vote.

although im sure Cam could write a few page essay on why Johnson's leftness was only the beginning of his issues with him.

Same. I come up as Social Libertarian on the 8Values test.

yup me, you and sirlance might be all that's left of the left libs. MasterZappy, sara, used to test that as well. which i always found a bit odd as she seemed to engage mostly on topics i read as right libertarian by nature. the crossover is still fairly large tho, its just a matter of what a libertarian wants the govt to spend a more deeply limited tax collection pool on. mainly borders open vs heavily controlled, criminals dealt with leniently vs harshly (on the fringes), death penalty, abortion, drug legalization, etc.

You are renting a house or apartment. Which means that you are paying for a service.
In america you are forced to pay for everything, even services you dont use or need.
You want the house right? A place to sleep, ac, heat, water, all that good stuff.
But I dont want government spending MY money, they dont even do a good job at spending it!

When I pay rent I pay for things I don't want to pay for. Some of the money goes to the mortgage, some goes to profit. I dont want any to go to profit. That's theft

Then work out another deal with your landlord, but we do live in a capitalist society, everyone wants to make a buck. Even you.

I want to make money too, and our politicians want to even more than the both of us combined. And it is that greed that is the breaking point, because who gives it to them big biz.
Now trust me I love capitalism but take the fucking money out of politics like wtf man.
I am not commie nor socialist.
But our politicians should not be dictated by their own greed but rather by good morals and the want to see a better ameirca.