Mostly Baptists. When I say something silly, remember that my primary frame of reference is Baptists.

I'm not mixing assumptions from different sects. I don't know enough about most Christian sects to pick and choose their assumptions on this issue.

However, I think it's pretty uncontroversial to say that virtually all modern Christian sects accept the trinity, which means it's not actually a sacrifice since Jesus is an avatar of the big man and therefore can't actually be tortured in any meaningful sense. They want Jesus to be literally God, and for the sacrifice to be meaningful. Sorry, doesn't work.

It's a paradox!

It's not lol

If you are going by Baptist’s doctrine then you understand that the KJV Bible is our final authority. And the Bible clearly teaches Jesus is God.

Then there is no sacrifice. God still exists and lost nothing.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 6 2021 12:20pm

And when does Jesus join the holy trinity?

previous to his birth there is no trinity, he was promised and then delivered via the immaculate conception.

again, you're making an assumption about when Jesus is God, let alone what that means with regards to Hell and his time there, let alone what that time means from our perspective.

you're just taking a lot of liberties to try and point out a contradiction that is in reality a strawman imo. even to devout baptists. but maybe Jesus Lives would know more specifically.

You clearly do not understand the people that die and go to Hell still exist.

Jesus existed before the world was created. God the Son did not come into existence in Bethlehem. Jesus appeared to Abraham. Do you believe that the Bible is the word of God? If I showed you verses would you believe them?

This post was edited by Jesus_Lives on Apr 6 2021 12:29pm

I've literally never met a Christian who ever said Jesus "joined" the trinity. Every Christian I've ever talked to on this, both online and offline, said Jesus was always existant. To be honest, I think you've got a very loose and liberal interpretation of scripture, and you're projecting that onto other Christian doctrine.



That's a pretty bad cop-out. Clearly I do understand that, or else I wouldn't be talking about hell as if it was a place or state.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 6 2021 12:29pm

ahhhh? the mockers and scoffers. when I was irreligious it didnt escape my attention how much time the mockers and scoffers spend on the things they dont believe. one can find them right in there in that scripture. they believe they are tearing down that scripture when in reality they verify it. It was atheist testimony just as much as any other thing that caused me to begin to believe. The rage some get when they find out I became christian and it was the atheists "fault".