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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 15 2021 07:14pm)
What you are trying to show is wholly separate from your question. The general cannot be proven by specifics.

I wholly reject that masturbation alone will cause a worse relationship, and I contend that many relationships are significantly better because of it.


Okay, so you don't want to acknowledge that many heterosexual relationships today are negatively affected by cheating.

And you don't think there's relationships today that are negatively affected by men who seek their sexual outlet through pixels, not through their wives? Let's put aside the moral aspect of men seeking pleasure by themselves... you don't think this influences their relationships?
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Okay, so you don't want to acknowledge that many heterosexual relationships today are negatively affected by cheating.

And you don't think there's relationships today that are negatively affected by men who seek their sexual outlet through pixels, not through their wives? Let's put aside the moral aspect of men seeking pleasure by themselves... you don't think this influences their relationships?


I really couldn't care less how many are affected by cheating. It's irrelevant to the discussion.

I think the number of men who "seek their sexual outlet through pixels" and don't otherwise have a deep problem in their relationship are exceedingly rare, and in the vast majority of cases those deep problems cause the sexual isolation, not the other way around.

I also know that a lot of relationships are positively affected by pornography consumption by one, the other, or both parties, in isolation or together, and there's nothing spiritually wrong with that.
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Converting numbers into names,gematria backs abiogenesis chance hypothesis
(the implausibility of life by chance)favoring god with mari & jesus,
their names also sum to trinity.





LIfe is intelligent design, be not decieved we wrestle not against flesh and blood but spiritual wickedness in high places.
Enjoy the easter egg

The reason why its advantageous to avoid master-bating is because when you build up that energy you're able to overcome the pleasures of the flesh and perceive truth with the holy spirit as the messenger to reveal it - one is spiritually clean when staying away from all things impure and thus can receive this free gift.
Even Freud and Jung recognized libido was the driving energy.
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I really couldn't care less how many are affected by cheating. It's irrelevant to the discussion.

I think the number of men who "seek their sexual outlet through pixels" and don't otherwise have a deep problem in their relationship are exceedingly rare, and in the vast majority of cases those deep problems cause the sexual isolation, not the other way around.

I also know that a lot of relationships are positively affected by pornography consumption by one, the other, or both parties, in isolation or together, and there's nothing spiritually wrong with that.


I'm not sure how it's irrelevant, because it's entirely my point. The avenues that men seek sexual gratification outside of marriage are obviously relevant, when I happen to believe that sex between a man and his wife is the ordered way to engage in sexual relations.

You're resistant in acknowledging that there's a way to seek out this sexual pleasure in a way that's damaging to loved ones around you. Furthermore, you're denying that there's a basic norm of a husband and wife who enjoy themselves sexually, and outside influences simply disrupt this.

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Sperm retention is a real thing

Big impact on testosterone levels
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Sperm retention is a real thing

Big impact on testosterone levels


You know how I know your movement is bullshit?

You can't even back me up when I agree with you.
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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 15 2021 07:10pm)
I'm not sure how it's irrelevant, because it's entirely my point. The avenues that men seek sexual gratification outside of marriage are obviously relevant, when I happen to believe that sex between a man and his wife is the ordered way to engage in sexual relations.

You're resistant in acknowledging that there's a way to seek out this sexual pleasure in a way that's damaging to loved ones around you. Furthermore, you're denying that there's a basic norm of a husband and wife who enjoy themselves sexually, and outside influences simply disrupt this.


You can definitely seek sexual pleasure in a way that damages loved ones. However this does not prove there is a relationship between some sort of "spiritual disorder" and material problems, nor does it prove fulfilling your sexual desires outside of your approved way is harmful in any way.

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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 15 2021 08:22pm)
You know how I know your movement is bullshit?

You can't even back me up when I agree with you.


What? I thought we agreed here

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Honestly though, do we want gays getting married without facing any penalties? Given what we know about the gender gap id propose raising taxes on gay couples and reducing them on lesbians.


Lesbian marriage is a huge myth. They always burn out and get divorced.

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What? I thought we agreed here


Someday I'll teach you how to make an argument.
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Someday I'll teach you how to make an argument.


I doubt it.
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