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Mar 30 2021 12:33pm
Quote (WiziLiCe @ Mar 30 2021 01:22pm)
Because lashing out at innocent bystanders will definitely alleviate the polarized state of affairs

It's a funny grudge thor seems to have with cam. Never have I seen him reply to cam with a charitable take


You'll notice that the Dumber you are the more likely I am to respond to your post. It's mainly because I find it entertaining. Cam is incredibly easy to make mad and I find that hilarious

Cam actually thinks he's ever won a debate or gets any amount of respect. His delusions are delicious

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Mar 30 2021 12:37pm
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My city had marches and several high-profile violent incidents. I drive through that area where it happened on my way to work. As much as the media will hype it up people tend to not just do indiscriminate violence so I never felt threatened.

I live in one of the most historically segregated cities in the country. I live pretty close to what you would call a ghetto. These places aren't as dangerous as the news wants fragile whites to believe. Trailer parks are generally more dangerous.


I mean i get burning down a police stations but burning down businesses and residential buildings crosses the line for me. That's about as indiscriminate as the violence can get and i could never support someone burning down my neighbours home because they're upset over police brutality.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-fire-building-mn-idUSKBN23537D
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Mar 30 2021 12:41pm
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I mean i get burning down a police stations but burning down businesses and residential buildings crosses the line for me. That's about as indiscriminate as the violence can get and i could never support someone burning down my neighbours home because they're upset over police brutality.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-fire-building-mn-idUSKBN23537D


Big businesses like Target are prime.... targets... for civil unrest. Who has more power in society than large businesses? Especially large businesses that maintain their profit margins through low wages. There are more institutions dedicated to maintaining the status quo than police and government agencies. In many ways these businesses represent the wealth stolen from these communities for the past hundred years.
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Mar 30 2021 12:44pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Mar 30 2021 02:37pm)
I mean i get burning down a police stations but burning down businesses and residential buildings crosses the line for me. That's about as indiscriminate as the violence can get and i could never support someone burning down my neighbours home because they're upset over police brutality.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-fire-building-mn-idUSKBN23537D


Maybe being murdered is worse than being offended?

I dunno.
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Mar 30 2021 12:49pm
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Big businesses like Target are prime.... targets... for civil unrest. Who has more power in society than large businesses? Especially large businesses that maintain their profit margins through low wages. There are more institutions dedicated to maintaining the status quo than police and government agencies. In many ways these businesses represent the wealth stolen from these communities for the past hundred years.


So you wouldn't support prosecuting anyone who burns/loots a target/walmart/bestbuy etc ?
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Mar 30 2021 12:50pm
Another old Asian woman attacked this week in NYC.

How is that bail reform working?
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Mar 30 2021 12:57pm
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So you wouldn't support prosecuting anyone who burns/loots a target/walmart/bestbuy etc ?


It's one of those things where you need to keep order in the country to have a country, but at the same time you've got an abused minority you've leached all the wealth from and refuse to stop and you expect them to just take it on the chin forever.

So it depends on what you mean by "support", and I don't really think it's a fruitful conversation to have anyway since what I've said so far has pointed out that the legal system has lost a great deal of its validity when it comes to the groups rising up against oppression.
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Mar 30 2021 01:07pm
walmart has probably done more to close the inequality gap between rich and poor than any other business in the last 50 years tbh.

it gives poor people a place to get affordable necessities that were previously not for their class. tax accountants, cell phones, flat screen tvs, food, clothes, baby supplies, etc.

of course they pay the employees shit, if they didnt they'd have to raise prices and instead of 50 underemployed people you'd have 10k people losing purchasing power.

"well they could just take less profit". is a dumb idea too. if they did the board would vote out management, and/or another company supplants them as they close store after store.

looting is 90% opportunistic terrorism, 10% racial inequality motivated. and in no way justified. arrest every last one of them. most only get under a year for theft under 2500 anyways.
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walmart has probably done more to close the inequality gap between rich and poor than any other business in the last 50 years tbh.
it gives poor people a place to get affordable necessities that were previously not for their class. tax accountants, cell phones, flat screen tvs, food, clothes, baby supplies, etc.
of course they pay the employees shit, if they didnt they'd have to raise prices and instead of 50 underemployed people you'd have 10k people losing purchasing power.
"well they could just take less profit". is a dumb idea too. if they did the board would vote out management, and/or another company supplants them as they close store after store.
looting is 90% opportunistic terrorism, 10% racial inequality motivated. and in no way justified. arrest every last one of them. most only get under a year for theft under 2500 anyways.


Walmart goes away, and all those mom and pop stores that paid more per hour are still around, and you're basically in the same place with purchasing power but with the profits from Wal-Mart being in the hands of thousands of moms and pops.

We do not need mega-corporations to raise our buying power or to bring costs down, and there's a lot of evidence that the exact opposite happens.

Giant corporations are generally more efficient, and the result of that efficiency is concentrated wealth which eventually causes other problems, including giving those same people outsized power to then abuse the lower classes by passing laws favorable to those already with money.

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Walmart goes away, and all those mom and pop stores that paid more per hour are still around, and you're basically in the same place with purchasing power but with the profits from Wal-Mart being in the hands of thousands of moms and pops.

We do not need mega-corporations to raise our buying power or to bring costs down, and there's a lot of evidence that the exact opposite happens.

Giant corporations are generally more efficient, and the result of that efficiency is concentrated wealth which eventually causes other problems, including giving those same people outsized power to then abuse the lower classes by passing laws favorable to those already with money.


walmart goes away and another store exists that is walmart, kmart, shopko, sears, w.e.

if you live in a reality where you dont think american society ends up in the lowest cost, most efficient, and worker punishing reality then you're a dreamer.

mcdonalds, walmart, amazon, etc. these are eventualities. they are not anything but guaranteed in america. there is no timeline they're missing from. they're a constant. they are america.

ive been telling you all where this is headed for maybe 10 years now.
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