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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2021 05:22am)
It always confuses me that the primary duty of Congress is to craft and modify legislation, yet FEWER than half have a Law degree of any form.

Cortez, for instance, has a bachelor in arts. What does this matter when crafting legislation? Oh, right, it doesn't.

If you want to talk about people qualified for the job, there are something like 168 representatives (out of 435) and 57 senators (out of 100) who meet what should be the "minimum educational requirements" for the position.

But then again, how many of those without the formal degree have served for other senators and reps or have other non-formal experience in legal matters? Dunno!

And there's the point. If you want to talk shit about a freshman representative from who gives a fuck, by all means. If you want to act like it matters, don't expect to be taken seriously.


You mean aoc? She has much more than an arts degree.
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You mean aoc? She has much more than an arts degree.


Her degree is literally a Bachelors of Arts degree. It is in no way a law degree. She is not educated in law, or in any way qualified to craft law from an education-based perspective. If you want to make a claim, make sure it's a meaningful claim.

Somebody can have an MBA, a BA, or a GED and be equally unqualified to craft legislation. Why? Because legislation has everything to do with law, and nothing to do with the rest.

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Her degree is literally a Bachelors of Arts degree. It is in no way a law degree. She is not educated in law, or in any way qualified to craft law from an education-based perspective. If you want to make a claim, make sure it's a meaningful claim.

Somebody can have an MBA, a BA, or a GED and be equally unqualified to craft legislation. Why? Because legislation has everything to do with law, and nothing to do with the rest.


Except she specialised in international relations and business, both have plenty of relevance in her field.
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Except she specialised in international relations and business, both have plenty of relevance in her field.


She does not have a BS, she has a BA. She did not "specialize" in business at all. It's an Arts degree, not a sciences degree, and not a law degree.

An actual economics degree is a BS in economics, which is what, ironically, Trump has. An actual communications degree would be a BS as well. An arts degree is a generalized degree that requires only a couple dozen credits in any given field to meet your so-called "specialization", and has almost no focus at all. A Science degree is incredibly focused on a field, and doesn't allow you to obtain half your credits from gender studies and testless classes that are automatic passes. :)

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She does not have a BS, she has a BA. She did not "specialize" in business at all. It's an Arts degree, not a sciences degree, and not a law degree.

An actual economics degree is a BS in economics, which is what, ironically, Trump has. An actual communications degree would be a BS as well. An arts degree is a generalized degree that requires only a couple dozen credits in any given field to meet your so-called "specialization", and has almost no focus at all. A Science degree is incredibly focused on a field, and doesn't allow you to obtain half your credits from gender studies and testless classes that are automatic passes. :)


Anyone with a law degree would make much more by taking the bar than going into politics.
Trumps degree isn't worth the paper it was printed on.


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Anyone with a law degree would make much more by taking the bar than going into politics.


This is false. The median salary of new law school graduates is $75K/year. The median salary of lawyers at major law firms is $180K/year. This would indicate that $174K/year for a Congressperson pays above the industry median for a Law School graduate, and instead meets the median for actual lawyers.

Again, you're making excuses as to why unqualified people are in charge of writing legislation in a topic specifically about an unqualified person in charge of writing legislation.

GED? Every bit as good for writing law as a BA. Both are 100% unqualified for the job. If you're going to make excuses for one, then it's time to be consistent and make excuses for the other. "Well, 42% of Colorado doesn't have a diploma, therefore having at least one representative without a Diploma would be more representative, right?!"

Hell, from a private market, business perspective, one could even say Lauren Boebert is MORE qualified than AOC. AOC worked as a waitress at a bar. Boebert OWNS 3 restaurants.

The problem, once again, is what does a generalized non-legal degree, GED, or window-licking habit have to do with writing legislation? Neither representative is qualified to work in the Legislative Branch. Neither representative is educated in law. Neither representative is anything more than a talking point for people to attempt to justify stupidity.

I will requote what I said, that you tried to argue with, so that you can read it to understand it, rather than reading with the intent to provide inane responses:

Quote (InsaneBobb @ 6 Feb 2021 11:22)
It always confuses me that the primary duty of Congress is to craft and modify legislation, yet FEWER than half have a Law degree of any form.

Cortez, for instance, has a bachelor in arts. What does this matter when crafting legislation? Oh, right, it doesn't.

If you want to talk about people qualified for the job, there are something like 168 representatives (out of 435) and 57 senators (out of 100) who meet what should be the "minimum educational requirements" for the position.

But then again, how many of those without the formal degree have served for other senators and reps or have other non-formal experience in legal matters? Dunno!

And there's the point. If you want to talk shit about a freshman representative from who gives a fuck, by all means. If you want to act like it matters, don't expect to be taken seriously.


Quote (Plaguefear @ 7 Feb 2021 04:09)
Trumps degree isn't worth the paper it was printed on.


What? He utilized the knowledge he gained from his BS in Economics to nearly double the net worth of his father's Real-Estate company, and then take $14 million in loans and turn them into Billions worth of construction, real estate, and other business assets.

Current estimates are that when it's all said and done, Trump profited roughly $200 million off his father. If you want to go ahead and inflation-adjust, that amount doubles up to $400 million. Which makes it less than 1/10th of what he built based on his knowledge of business economics.

You're seriously high if you don't understand the benefits Trump's education gave to him. All too many kids who inherit millions from their parents piss it all away and end up poor as can be. DJT is not one of them. :)

That being said, Trump is not qualified to sit in Congress either. Nor do I think he'd be qualified as Vice President, since that places you as the President of the Senate. I will say, however, that Pence, who is a JD, and Harris, who is also a JD, are both qualified congresspeople, and are both qualified for VP. :)

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This is false. The median salary of new law school graduates is $75K/year. The median salary of lawyers at major law firms is $180K/year. This would indicate that $174K/year for a Congressperson pays above the industry median for a Law School graduate, and instead meets the median for actual lawyers.

Again, you're making excuses as to why unqualified people are in charge of writing legislation in a topic specifically about an unqualified person in charge of writing legislation.

GED? Every bit as good for writing law as a BA. Both are 100% unqualified for the job. If you're going to make excuses for one, then it's time to be consistent and make excuses for the other. "Well, 42% of Colorado doesn't have a diploma, therefore having at least one representative without a Diploma would be more representative, right?!"

Hell, from a private market, business perspective, one could even say Lauren Boebert is MORE qualified than AOC. AOC worked as a waitress at a bar. Boebert OWNS 3 restaurants.

The problem, once again, is what does a generalized non-legal degree, GED, or window-licking habit have to do with writing legislation? Neither representative is qualified to work in the Legislative Branch. Neither representative is educated in law. Neither representative is anything more than a talking point for people to attempt to justify stupidity.

I will requote what I said, that you tried to argue with, so that you can read it to understand it, rather than reading with the intent to provide inane responses:


Not sure you understand how democracy works, America is not a technocracy.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 7 Feb 2021 04:51)
Not sure you understand how democracy works, America is not a technocracy.


Stop spamming, Matt.

The purpose of the Legislative branch is to write, modify, and occasionally repeal legislation. AKA law. The entire purpose of Congress is law. Nobody who has no knowledge of the law or how it works is "qualified" to write, repeal, or modify law. Or, in most cases, even understand much of the bills they're asked to vote on.

AOC? Boebert? Not qualified. Over half of Congress? Unqualified. It's not a "technocracy" to expect that a window-licking idiot not be the person writing law. It's simple common sense. This is also why the majority of bills introduced by representatives and senators who do not have a JD die without ever seeing the light of day. They don't know wtf they're doing, and the interns they pay don't know what they're doing either.

You're right, it's NOT a technocracy, which is precisely why you don't need to know fuckall to get a job as a representative. On the flipside, it IS still a technocracy, because the laws that're actually written ARE written by those who specialize in law. All you accomplish by electing a person with no legal education is thinning out the pool of people who can write legislation, and make it easier to pass legislation those elite few write by spinning it as something it's not to the ignorant remainder.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2021 11:03pm)
Stop spamming, Matt.

The purpose of the Legislative branch is to write, modify, and occasionally repeal legislation. AKA law. The entire purpose of Congress is law. Nobody who has no knowledge of the law or how it works is "qualified" to write, repeal, or modify law. Or, in most cases, even understand much of the bills they're asked to vote on.

AOC? Boebert? Not qualified. Over half of Congress? Unqualified. It's not a "technocracy" to expect that a window-licking idiot not be the person writing law. It's simple common sense. This is also why the majority of bills introduced by representatives and senators who do not have a JD die without ever seeing the light of day. They don't know wtf they're doing, and the interns they pay don't know what they're doing either.

You're right, it's NOT a technocracy, which is precisely why you don't need to know fuckall to get a job as a representative. On the flipside, it IS still a technocracy, because the laws that're actually written ARE written by those who specialize in law. All you accomplish by electing a person with no legal education is thinning out the pool of people who can write legislation, and make it easier to pass legislation those elite few write by spinning it as something it's not to the ignorant remainder.


Wrong.
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