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Feb 2 2021 11:01pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 2 Feb 2021 20:59)
If you were actually interested you would be looking for it yourself.


You are justifying terrorism.

The onus of proof is on you. Grow up, kiddo.
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Feb 2 2021 11:08pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 2 2021 11:01pm)
You are justifying terrorism.

The onus of proof is on you. Grow up, kiddo.


I have no onus. I'm stating my opinion. If you are interested in what the pastor says or has said in the past it's all out there. The fact that you aren't looking tells me you aren't actually interested in anything but proving how super smart and right you are and how we're all just so dumb against your magical 16 year old intellect.

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I have no onus. I'm stating my opinion. If you are interested in what the pastor says or has said in the past it's all out there. The fact that you aren't looking tells me you aren't actually interested in anything but proving how super smart and right you are and how we're all just so dumb against your magical 16 year old intellect.


And I stated my opinion. You're a terrorist sympathizer. You expect me to take you at your word, yet you're actively supporting terrorism.

You have zero credibility, and I wouldn't believe it's raining outside based on your word alone. You hold no moral high ground, you are not worth listening to. Your opinion is worthless, and your stance is hideous.

You support terrorism. Enough said.
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And I stated my opinion. You're a terrorist sympathizer. You expect me to take you at your word, yet you're actively supporting terrorism.

You have zero credibility, and I wouldn't believe it's raining outside based on your word alone. You hold no moral high ground, you are not worth listening to. Your opinion is worthless, and your stance is hideous.

You support terrorism. Enough said.


If you were in Germany you would be saying that Jews defending themselves was terrorism and there's no proof of any camps.

Everything has its place, even violence. You have the mindset of a 14 year old, so I'm not surprised you don't understand that.
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I think it's vandalism and not terrorism. And if it was really for kill it must be proved. Still irresponsible, Saturday morning ok, but when exactly ?
Honestly it's an hard choice, both are eventually radicalized.

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The church had been the target of protests, and more than 14,000 people have signed an online petition calling on El Monte’s mayor to recognize the church as a hate group and “take them out of our city.”
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I would not trust online petition tho. TRUMP IS BACK MURICA IS GREAT AGAIN.

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I think it's vandalism and not terrorism. And if it was really for kill it must be proved.


It's a bomb. It doesn't matter if somebody happened to be there or not. When you're bombing an institution over political disagreements, it's terrorism.

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The church had been the target of protests, and more than 14,000 people have signed an online petition calling on El Monte’s mayor to recognize the church as a hate group and “take them out of our city.”


Protests are fine. Freedom of speech. Do not compare a bombing to inspire terror to achieve a political goal (RE: Terrorism) with speech.

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It's a bomb. It doesn't matter if somebody happened to be there or not. When you're bombing an institution over political disagreements, it's terrorism.


Could be a KKK-like church lol.
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Could be a KKK-like church lol.


...and? I lived through the tail end of the cold war. We were at war with the communists, yet there was a communist party within the United States. I would not have tolerated terrorism against the communists either.

Multiple things can be bad at the same time. If it was a KKK-like church? Fine. You wait until there's an attempt to incite violence, and lock the ringleaders in a cage. You don't simply bomb the church and say, "fuck it".

Political speech, even that which you find completely disgusting and reprehensible is still protected, until it passes into incitement, at which time legal action by law enforcement can ensue. At no point is terrorism justified in this matter.

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...and? I lived through the tail end of the cold war. We were at war with the communists, yet there was a communist party within the United States. I would not have tolerated terrorism against the communists either.

Multiple things can be bad at the same time. If it was a KKK-like church? Fine. You wait until there's an attempt to incite violence, and lock the ringleaders in a cage. You don't simply bomb the church and say, "fuck it".

Political speech, even that which you find completely disgusting and reprehensible is still protected, until it passes into incitement, at which time legal action by law enforcement can ensue. At no point is terrorism justified in this matter.


Jesus, it's like talking to a rope.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 2 Feb 2021 23:15)
Jesus, it's like talking to a rope.


The moment you justify terrorism as a valid method of dealing with that which you don't like, you open yourself up to terrorism being used against you.

Based on your own judgement, the Pulse Nightclub shooter was fully justified. His Imam told him the Hadiths classed homosexuals as animals, and killing them was a mercy. Therefore his murder of 49 people was fine. Because it was a mercy, according to what he thought was correct.

No? Don't like that idea? How about Dylan Roof? He thought that black on white crime was so extreme, that he was personally at risk and had to take action, and killed 9 people. If he hadn't, he might have got shot by a black guy!

No, see how absurd it is? You do not excuse ANY terrorism. It's ALL wrong. Because no matter how justified you THINK you are, you do not have the right to take anyone else's life "just cause". If you believe you DO have that right, then you're opening everyone else up to take your life instead. :)
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