...and? Representatives are responsible to their constituents. If the constituents are angry enough to throw them out, then they'll do so, if they aren't, they won't. Liz Cheney doesn't and didn't matter. There are 74 million Trump voters who'd likely oust Cheney in a heartbeat. Do they matter? No. Why? She doesn't fucking represent them. She represents her district.

Stick with German politics. Naziism is easier to deal with.

how trump derangement syndrome has taken over the republican party:

https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-TRUMP/LAWMAKERS/xegpbedzdvq/index.html

Only on a secret ballot though. They are scared of their own voters.

lol they’re not scared. they can feign fear all they want but they weren’t scared to do this vote (private ballot isn’t some new thing) and they weren’t scared on Jan 6.

government hasn’t been by the people for the people for a long time when it comes to our legislative branch

we know who the warmongering RINOs are, not like it wasn’t clear before President Trump came along. the swamp stays the same no matter who wins the Presidency.

This post was edited by excellence on Feb 4 2021 08:39pm

No, Fender is just wrong as per usual.

There were many reps who stood up for Cheney on the record despite virtually all voting against impeachment. It's one thing to impeach a president in a partisan vote, it's another to turn on a respected colleague and effectively fire them for a difference of opinion.

I have to disagree with this interpretation. It seems very plausible to me that a lot of the 145 GOP House members disagree with Cheney's decision to back impeachment, but do not think that she should be exiled over it. Alternatively, it's also plausible that they would have liked to give Cheney the boot, but decided against that in order to not divide and fracture the party even more, particularly at a time when the balance of power in the country is hanging by a thread. As things stand right now, a few percentage points in either direction during the next two election cycles can make the difference between Republicans recapturing both chambers of Congress or seeing a Democratic trifecta get entrenched for decades.

In any case, it's logically incorrect to conclude that a vote against ousting Cheney means that the congressman is secretly anti-Trump.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 4 2021 09:16pm

agreed. The swamp is anti-Trump and that includes the gop warmongering rino cabal - which is still very large and powerful, even in its diminished capacity. That said, being anti-Trump is not someone to effectively sack your co-workers for (being pro-Trump is though, even though that one is to far out there in stupid land about unrelated topics)

Romney or Cheney do not deserve punishment from colleagues because they have a legitimate but different and very shortsighted yet self-serving political view. The voters are the ones who hold them accountable in this arena (they wont though, but that’s a different story)

Exactly. As I have said repeatedly in recent days, it should be up to Wyoming's primary voters to decide Cheney's political fate. And yes, I think she will have a big problem in that primary. The neocon cabal will try everything in its power to protect her, but I dont see her winning that primary if there is a challenger who can unify the pro-Trump forces.

They’re gonna convert so many people with “$1400 checks maybe as long as you didn’t make too much in 2019 we don’t give a fuck if you lost your job to the pandemic.”