As I said before, even if we establish the fetus is a person with a right to life, that doesn't mean it automatically takes precedent over the mother's right to do what she wants with her body. When rights conflict it's often a messy matter to figure out which right wins.

Also, birth comes with the potential for serious medical complications. "You can give birth to the baby and never see it again" ignores this factor.

So anyway, my stance is that prior to ~23 weeks the fetus is not a person since it has never had a brain and therefore there can not be a conflict of rights that overrides the bodily autonomy of the mother.

After 23 weeks its about who wins the conflict between the fetus "right to life" and the mother's right to do what she wants with her body. I'm not convinced one way or the other on this question.

Yes it does. Murder is morally wrong.

You can lie to yourself, but deep down you know you just ended that life form's entire life and future.

Sure, at that point a life may have been ended. However, even if it is morally wrong that doesn't mean you don't have a right to do it. Like, you have a right to keep existing even though morally you should at least castrate yourself to prevent from spreading your sick moose genes.

You aren't conscious most of the time. I plan to abort you and use your tax dollars to do it.

Important distinction between "never been conscious" and "not currently conscious". My brain is still there, still functioning, and still undertaking processes necessary to maintain my personhood. Just because it isn't currently expressed doesn't mean I don't still have a personhood and an underlying valuable consciousness.

However, if it was a choice between my life, and the life of ten thousand others, then there would be a compelling interest to override my right to life and my right to bodily autonomy. I'm not convinced which direction it falls in the case of abortion after 23 weeks.

Why support and be adamant for higher volumes of unwanted low socioeconomic births but refuse welfare is the better question

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Agreed. Its a very common talking point and its clearly wrong.

Cam wants small government until people do what he doesnt like.

We already know you are dishonest. Continuous reminders are unnecessary.

I would distance myself from her. She's dumb as hell.