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Quote (Djunior @ 28 Jan 2021 08:55)
Agreed, also Ukraine is historically part of russia, then there's crimea/sevastopol, the only logical conclusion for EU is stay far away from this powder keg that might go boom one way or another


The western parts of Ukraine have historically been part of Europe, just like its eastern parts are historically tied to Russia. You can even see this split in the country's politics. For example, look at the results of the presidential runoff election in 2004 between the pro-EU (yellow) and the pro-Russia (blue) canddiate:

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Jan 28 2021 05:23am
exactly what is the op gonna do, invade Russia in September if he doesn't leave office?
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The western parts of Ukraine have historically been part of Europe, just like its eastern parts are historically tied to Russia. You can even see this split in the country's politics. For example, look at the results of the presidential runoff election in 2004 between the pro-EU (yellow) and the pro-Russia (blue) canddiate:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Ukraine_Wahlen_2004_2.png


What I meant and important in this context is that Crimea has been part of Russia historically, until it was given to Ukraine by Russia in 1954.

Quote from Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_transfer_of_Crimea

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The transfer of the Crimean Oblast to Ukraine has been described as a "symbolic gesture", marking the 300th anniversary of Ukraine becoming a part of the Tsardom of Russia.[5][11][12] That "symbolic gesture" came out as a post factum and was never discussed as one of the reasons prior to the transfer. It was also attributed to Nikita Khrushchev, although the person who signed the document was Kliment Voroshilov.


Obviously Russia never intended to give Crimea away to Europe ^^

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exactly what is the op gonna do, invade Russia in September if he doesn't leave office?


He's gonna deny it, but obv the OP, as a good national socialist, would love to see that happen

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Quote (Djunior @ 28 Jan 2021 13:01)
What I meant and important in this context is that Crimea has been part of Russia historically, until it was given to Ukraine by Russia in 1954.

Quote from Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_transfer_of_Crimea



Obviously Russia never intended to give Crimea away to Europe ^^


I'm well aware of the history of Crimea, I just wanted to correct your sloppy wording that "Ukraine has historically been a part of Russia". :)
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The empire strikes back

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The empire strikes back


leave it to a trump supporter to brainlessly cheerlead another fascist regime, lol...
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leave it to a trump supporter to brainlessly cheerlead another fascist regime, lol...


Okay goebbels

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holy that castle is insane. Makes me wonder who is really building all that. The secret tunnels that go underneath, man i wouldn't be surprised if they got a secret submarine base underneath
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