Quote (InsaneBobb @ 24 Dec 2020 20:08)
The largest voting bloc is the Independent vote. The fact that moderates, whether republican or democrat, continue to win the overwhelming majority of elections is a direct indication that moderates DO represent the silent majority.
I would argue that if progressives were more representative, the Gabbard or Bernie type candidates would have won the election in a landslide. Both support policies that would lead to UBI and nationalized healthcare. Yet neither one get anywhere close to even entering the general election.
It's pretty easy to track who supports what where. Progressive ideals are incredibly well-received in large cities with expensive housing and fewer living wage jobs than what's required to support the population. Smaller cities, towns, and counties where housing is cheaper and even minimum wage jobs cover the cost of living typically trend to moderate or even conservative values, because progressive ideals such as nationalized healthcare and a UBI would drive prices up so much that their previously worthwhile wage would be devalued and their cost of living would skyrocket and their tax rate would jump through the roof. They may very well find they are now below cost of living and unable to afford a home and transportation.
In general, it's my opinion that progressives are ignorant idealists who have no idea what their policy prescriptions require, or would result in. They start from a basic theory that, "Everyone should have food, housing, transportation, internet, clean water, power, and healthcare. These things should be rights!" and then attempt to enact policies to make it happen without bothering to build any form of infrastructure that can support it. Somebody has to be the nurse, the burger flipper, the shelf stocker, the farmer, the IT security guy, the rail operator. If all the basics are provided to a person without any action taken to earn it, why should they bother to work? What makes you believe you would not lose your shelf stockers, your farmers, your burger flippers for such a small wage that they will barely be able to afford anything more than they already have? Why should nurses constantly expose themselves to sick people, constantly putting themselves at risk? Why should construction workers continue to build homes and businesses and roads in one of the most physically demanding and dangerous professional fields in the nation?
only two sentences in and i can already identify where you struggled to understand my point. you're assuming that voting behaviour in america is based on policy preference. you assume that voting biden means knowing and supporting his political convictions. see, that's one of the major flaws of that ridiculous system: if your only choices are shit sandwich and shit hurricane, you might choose the former, but that doesn't mean you actually like it.
i thought providing specific examples that enjoy bipartisan support amongst voters, but strict opposition in BOTH parties' establishments, would have made that clear, but i guess i overestimated people's intelligence.
so called 'moderates', meaning donor class approved establishment figures, don't win because they have the best and most popular policies, or because they are the only ones with realistic plans (much of what american sheeple uncritically dismiss as pie in the sky, idealistic fantasy, that simply couldn't be implemented in reality - because your politicians and corporate media tell you - has been standard in your peer countries for ages). they win elections because the system is rigged massively in their favour. going against the party establishment, and thus the media monopoly that's owned by the same corporate interest, threatening the corporate monopoly on politics means you're in for an extremely difficult uphill battle.
by all means, keep regurgitating the lazy talking points about how progressive policies are simply unaffordable (while at the same time giving trillions of taxbreaks to the rich, protecting corporations against the people, spending a fortune on forever wars that no one except a few people, who get filthy rich of it, supports...), waffle on about the thoroughly debunked talking points of how protecting workers and paying living wages is a slippery slope to a collapse of the system, or how with ubi no one would work anymore, but know that you're not actually making any substantive points - you're just uncritically repeating what you have been told by corporate media and a political class that stands to profit from you not questioning the system. if you ever bothered to ask yourself if that is true, if you ever bothered to look at how many of your peer countries handled affairs, you'd realise it doesn't have to be that way, but i guess that's too much to ask of an american, lol.
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