Go back and watch the videos of the "Sarin Gas victims" in Syria. Why were the white helmets not wearing gloves? How could a person be safe "helping" a victim barehanded when it absorbs through the skin?

There's a lot in life that needs critical analysis. I get that's not your strong suit, but give it a shot. It'll be educational.

You need to take a critical analysis of your own life.

Fact Check: True

Relevance: None

The guy with the word "Insane" in his handle talking about relevance.

...Still waiting for that critical analysis.

Why would I provide you a critical analysis of my own life? Who the fuck are you, and why do you matter?

Get over yourself. If you wish to participate in the debate, feel free. If not, shut the fuck up, you're a nobody.

To me, you guys sound really naive. We hack adversary governments, entities, firms regularly. This story wouldn't even be a story but it is because the media caught wind of it so the hacked parties now have to publicly address and acknowledge it. Usually, in this type of situation, a corporation would never want to admit it because it damages their public image, scares off investors, scares off customers, etc. For state entities, it's also fairly embarrassing to admit that they've gotten hacked and acknowledge weaknesses.

This hack isn't a one-off event where essentially Russia just hacked us for no reason. In reality, it's just a continuation of the sang and dance we have with various other superpowers for many years but 9/10 times we never hear anything about these hacks for the above-mentioned reasons. So to say we have to retaliate is just to be ignorant of the status quo. We continually attack and retaliate and this cycle has been going on for at least a decade now. Historially we've been much better at it than them but China & Russia have really upped they cyber espionage game in the last decade.



Trump with 2 weeks left in office shouldn't do anything. Whatever response you think is warranted should be thought out and Biden's admin can respond one way or another.

Top U.S. security officials have said Russia is behind this. As you can see Trump has been contradicting our own intelligence agencies and hasn't said ONE thing against Russia.

Trump and the GOP are compromised by Russia and Putin. Literal traitors. Gonna be so interesting to look back in 10 years and see how all the idiots went along with Trump and the GOP traitors.

This post was edited by endymionlune on Dec 20 2020 09:22am

Top US security officials indicated Russia, China, Iran, and half a dozen multinational corporations were implicated.

If you are citing merely accusations against Russia, perhaps you should cite the specific official and/or report.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/12/19/trump-still-wont-criticize-russia-claims-massive-cyber-hack-may-be-china-but-offers-no-evidence/?sh=31411f57708a

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/13/us/politics/russian-hackers-us-government-treasury-commerce.html

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/14/946163194/russia-suspected-in-months-long-cyber-attack-on-federal-agencies

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/foreign-hacking-public-private-entities-breached

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mike-pompeo-cyberattack-us-government-pretty-clearly-russians

ur a fucking idot

This post was edited by endymionlune on Dec 20 2020 09:26am

In order to bring a case before a US court, you have to argue standing (damage was done to you personally) and injury (there was actual damage to you, personally). That's merely to get to the evidentiary stage. Once you get to a point that you can present evidence, the evidence needs to be beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The reports regarding the... Hacks? Don't show much. You cannot show any proof of injury, first and foremost. Second, you cannot show a single party. There are multiple alleged parties involved. Is it possible that somebody managed to get past IT security? Okay, maybe? So what? What did they do? What's the injury?

At this point, there's not enough damage to even bring a civil lawsuit, let alone declare war. Nor is there evidence that links it solidly to Russia that doesn't rely on the internal investigations of private companies that also happen to do business with China, who just happens to be actively hostile towards Russia.

I'm not down for getting involved in a Russia/China conflict on China's behalf, especially regarding a cyberattack that China themselves also happens to be implicated in. Why are you? Aren't you one of those crazy defund the police, US big brother bad types?