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Nov 21 2020 09:05pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Nov 21 2020 09:50pm)
I would say the answer depends on who you're talking about. There are some who want him free just because he killed some people they view as 'commies'. Some who honestly believe he's innocent and some who don't believe it but are pushing the narrative anyway because it suits them politically.


Sure someone somewhere might think he is guilty but support him anyways. You are being obtuse.

What do you think the majority of his defenders believe?
How about the prominent people who bailed him out whom fender characterized as evil?

The answer is clear and obvious. They (rightly) believe that he is innocent.

Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Nov 21 2020 10:00pm)
It should be really clear at this point. I mean I've explained it in detail if you still don't get it then.... well that explains a lot actually.


Where did you explain it in detail? Not in this thread.

Vague complaints and distractions aren't detailed explanations.

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Quote (Jere @ 22 Nov 2020 03:02)
No, I don't think I claimed you did. I said fact checkers


Ok so what?

Is your argument that publicly making the claim Hillary Clinton has carved off a little girl's face and worn it in a satanic ritual (meant to increase the potency of an anti aging chemical found in the little girl's blood before drinking it) is not batshit insane because it can't be proven without a shadow of a doubt that it is untrue?
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Quote (MxVivianWulf @ 21 Nov 2020 21:05)
Ok so what?

Is your argument that publicly making the claim Hillary Clinton has carved off a little girl's face and worn it in a satanic ritual (meant to increase the potency of an anti aging chemical found in the little girl's blood before drinking it) is not batshit insane because it can't be proven without a shadow of a doubt that it is untrue?


Man, people are lazy. After 1776, not long.
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Quote (cambovenzi @ 22 Nov 2020 03:05)
Sure someone somewhere might think he is guilty but support him anyways. You are being obtuse.

What do you think the majority of his defenders believe?
How about the prominent people who bailed him out who fender characterized as evil?

The answer is clear and obvious. They (rightly) believe that he is innocent.



Where did you explain it in detail? Not in this thread.

Vague complaints and distractions aren't detailed explanations.


I very clearly stated that publishing speculation without contextualising is the province of propaganda not news. I impugned the journalistic integrity of the piece you quoted and thus the news org that published it on that basis.
Nothing vague about that at all. I don't understand what you're having trouble with here... I thought you were the big smart.
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Nov 21 2020 09:12pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Nov 21 2020 09:20pm)
What part of taking a gun and going out of your way to antagonise a mob is part of your non aggression principle?
News flash, if that moron didn't show up rocking maga gear and carrying a gun no one ends up dead.


The mob chased him. Get your shit straight.
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Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Nov 21 2020 08:53pm)
I believe justice ought to be rehabilitative/restorative and that incarceration is to protect others.

A bullet is a last resort when no other avenue is available to protect the general public from an individual likely to carry out further harm. Execution serves little purpose beyond that.


Exactly. Except this kid hasn't expressed any remorse for his crimes and therefore is still a threat to the public. So put a bullet in him.
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Nov 21 2020 09:18pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Nov 21 2020 10:08pm)
I very clearly stated that publishing speculation without contextualising is the province of propaganda not news. I impugned the journalistic integrity of the piece you quoted and thus the news org that published it on that basis.
Nothing vague about that at all. I don't understand what you're having trouble with here... I thought you were the big smart.


You impugned it because they didn't criticize and contradict the factual narrative you don't like.
Says more about you than them.

Reporting important facts and witness testimony is valid.
yes its news, even if you don't like it.

The piece did contain contextualization. I quoted the pertinent parts that substantiate my position.
The videos are publicly available and were also reported on elsewhere.

Can you argue against the reported evidence or not?
Or just vague and diversionary attacks on the imagined integrity of one outlet that isn't at all pertinent to the case?
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Quote (MizzouFTW @ Nov 21 2020 10:16pm)
Exactly. Except this kid hasn't expressed any remorse for his crimes and therefore is still a threat to the public. So put a bullet in him.


Why would he express remorse for defending himself?
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Nov 21 2020 09:23pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 21 2020 07:19pm)
Why would he express remorse for defending himself?


Probably because he killed someone...

George Zimmerman felt A LOT of remorse after he killed Trayvon. At the end of the day, even if it was absolutely necessary, you still feel awful for taking a life. If he hasn't expressed remorse, he needs a new attorney lol.
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Quote (thundercock @ Nov 21 2020 10:23pm)
Probably because he killed someone...

George Zimmerman felt A LOT of remorse after he killed Trayvon. At the end of the day, even if it was absolutely necessary, you still feel awful for taking a life. If he hasn't expressed remorse, he needs a new attorney lol.


This is what the founding fathers intended. /s

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