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Nov 3 2020 11:43am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 3 2020 11:40am)
They are probably the only ones that care enough about civics to actually put their time where their mouth is. Meanwhile the other generations are either busy working, making lame videos on tic-toc or dorks like us arguing politics on a video game website.


no doubt their generation feels the call of duty in a way ours never will. they remember collecting tin for the war effort and happily walking to the draft office.

it should also be said not many enjoying life that much at age 90+, its less about want to live and more about fear of death imo.
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Nov 3 2020 11:46am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Nov 3 2020 07:41pm)
I don't know if you can truly compare enthusiasm based on event turnouts, in the age of COVID. The demographic that supports reopening the country and getting back to business as usual skews heavily to Trump's side. You also have to consider how much of the attendance at these rallies was already going to vote for Trump, vs undecided voters, or even Democratic converts. I haven't seen any data on this (doesn't mean that data doesn't exist, just that I haven't seen it).


I can't really disagree with anything you said, it all logically makes sense. But this level of enthusiasm just isn't normal, and has never occurred in the history of the country. The gap is far too big for Trump to be as big of an underdog as the polls were saying a couple weeks ago, which is one reason the pollsters are panicking and starting to even out their numbers today so they can maintain some shred of credibility if Trump wins. WRT to COVID, you're right it's become a somewhat partisan issue. Dems played it up all election season, which results in many of their supporters being reluctant to attend rallies or vote in person. Trump recovered from COVID in a few days and since then has had a message of not fearing COVID, which results in his supporters being more likely to attend rallies and vote in person. The numbers clearly support this if you look at % of mail-in / early votes compared to % of on election day in-person votes for both parties.

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Nov 3 2020 11:47am
Quote (Mangix @ Nov 3 2020 12:41pm)
Careful there it almost sounded like you endorse antifa :lol:


The 95 year old probably worked some shitty job for 45 years only to retire and find ways to contribute to the community with food drives, election volunteering, etc.

Meanwhile Antifa are throwing temper tantrums about how life isn't fair living in one of the best countries in the world. They complain about capitalism while ordering a 7 dollar Starbucks soy latte buying Supreme 80 dollar t-shirts and making a difference by taking pics of themselves on their iPhone 12 and arguing with random people on twitter and Facebook.

No two groups can be further from each other.
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Nov 3 2020 11:51am
Quote (EA7 @ Nov 3 2020 11:46am)
I can't really disagree with anything you said, it all logically makes sense. But this level of enthusiasm just isn't normal, and has never occurred in the history of the country. The gap is far too big for Trump to be as big of an underdog as the polls were saying a couple weeks ago, which is one reason the pollsters are panicking and starting to even out their numbers today so they can maintain some shred of credibility if Trump wins. WRT to COVID, you're right it's become a somewhat partisan issue. Dems played it up all election season, which results in many of their supporters being reluctant to attend rallies or vote in person. Trump recovered from COVID in a few days and since then has had a message of not fearing COVID, which results in his supporters being more likely to attend rallies and vote in person. The numbers clearly support this if you look at % of mail-in / early votes compared to % of on election day in-person votes for both parties.


Yeah, Trump's base is definitely energized. The key to making up that early voting gap will be energizing undecideds or fence-leaning Ds to switch sides. And he has to do so in numbers that belie current polling data. Not impossible, but not an easy task.
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Nov 3 2020 12:23pm
Exit polls find trump winning in greenland
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Nov 3 2020 12:29pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 3 Nov 2020 12:43)
no doubt their generation feels the call of duty in a way ours never will. they remember collecting tin for the war effort and happily walking to the draft office.

it should also be said not many enjoying life that much at age 90+, its less about want to live and more about fear of death imo.

yeah my grandparents and even parents generation vote every election no matter what. its incredible to see.

i’ve gotten better, didnt really start consistently until like 2012 (wasnt old enough in 2006, did in 2008 and skipped 2010)
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yeah my grandparents and even parents generation vote every election no matter what. its incredible to see.

i’ve gotten better, didnt really start consistently until like 2012 (wasnt old enough in 2006, did in 2008 and skipped 2010)


lol that Obama change propaganda got u huh? (me as well)
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Nov 3 2020 12:49pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 3 Nov 2020 12:43)
no doubt their generation feels the call of duty in a way ours never will. they remember collecting tin for the war effort and happily walking to the draft office.

it should also be said not many enjoying life that much at age 90+, its less about want to live and more about fear of death imo.


yall probably gonna be walking into war again soon

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Nov 3 2020 12:52pm
Current update both nominees get shot and mike pence becomes the king
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Nov 3 2020 12:53pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 3 Nov 2020 13:47)
lol that Obama change propaganda got u huh? (me as well)

it was the first election i was old enough to vote in tbh. i wanted to in 2006 but wasnt 18 yet

and yeah being where i was at the time it was Obama mania. he was a legit rockstar in 2008. i knew the magnitude of him being elected was going to be important but i really didn’t appreciate it until years later as much as i disagree with some of his admin’s policy

i had no money at the time being in undergrad and the recession in full swing otherwise i would have bet every last cent on Obama winning. it was like betting on Michael Jordan in the finals lmao
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