In the cases of pure breads that have severe health problems, including breathing problems, mental illness, or major deformations, I agree.

Most dogs are muts and fairly healthy though.

If you get one, then do your research imo. Most dogs indeed have a healthy happy life.

/e That doesn't count for all animals though.
Goldfish can live for 40+ years in the wild.. 10 years max in a tank

This post was edited by Knoppie on Oct 29 2020 05:04pm

but are they likely to live 40+ years in the wild?

Hell no lol

Don't treat the max life as though it's a normal life.

Hehe, I did the same with goldfish in a tank

My dogs are both mutts, same with my cats, and they all came from shelters, except one who was from a family on craigslist.

My wife has a beta tank and he's been alive and doing good for about a year, and another fish tank that's a bit below capacity on fish that's been doing good. Had very minimal losses the first year.

My new home had a leaking pond, the goldfish almost died there if I didn't buy a tank asap.. I'm hoping they are happy and am really doing my best to keep them healthy.. Problem is that they should grow up to 30-40 cm (15 inch).
right now they've grown from 10 cm to 15 in 6 months. So I've just bought a larger tank right now in order to not physically deform them through growth restrictions (like 90% of goldfishes in tanks) and am thinking of recreating the pond or find a better home after the larger tank within a year..

If I started this on my own, I'd indeed choose smaller fish like beta's like your wife and give them more space than ppl say they'd need..
I mean animals are cute as fuck. Giving them a good life usually requires more than we think was sufficient in recent history. From what I see around me we do need to reconsider minimum requirements. And it seems like we are slowly getting there in recent years.

(/e lost in mud translation) I have at least given them a better life than they had. Can't help to still feel a bit sad for them being confined as they are.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Oct 29 2020 05:45pm

Argument against Beta ownership, in the spirit of being devil's advocate, is that to get such pretty ones breeders "line breed" to select recessive traits, often spawning a lot of shitty mutant inbred fish that hatch to be flushed. Flowerhorn cichlids are in this category as well. Electric Blue Jack Dempsey cichlid. German Blue Rams. Blood Parrots. Catastrophic loss of life to create a $10 sale.




Any 90 -120 gallon tank would be fine for the lifespan of a goldfish.

This post was edited by Skinned on Oct 29 2020 05:55pm

but do they go to heaven?

also that's incorrect. a british woman had a goldfish for 56 years

I'm a chad. Beta ownership is what I do.

Hah g1