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Oct 29 2020 08:03am
Details are coming out. 911 was called by family requesting ambulance for a mentally ill individual in crisis, no crime was being committed and the police were not called. Police were dispatched instead of a mobile crisis unit (social worker team to check out these exact things) and they used the tools they had to solve this man's mania that the family was getting him to the hospital for.

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I'm pretty sure that the Koch brothers would prefer to get rid of Trump. A president Biden with a gridlocked Congress (R Senate, D House) is surely their dream scenario. They already got everything good that could have come from a Trump presidency from their perspective (tax cuts, judges, deregulation), a second term would only have downside for them.


Koch would want to get rid of Trump because the president is supposed to manage the foreign affairs of the bourgeoisie and they want someone who hasn't bankrupted everything to be that.
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Oct 29 2020 08:45am
Bodycam will be released soon as well
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Oct 29 2020 09:27am
Can someone tell me how this is good for Trump?
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Oct 29 2020 09:31am
Quote (Skinned @ Oct 29 2020 09:03am)
Details are coming out. 911 was called by family requesting ambulance for a mentally ill individual in crisis, no crime was being committed and the police were not called. Police were dispatched instead of a mobile crisis unit (social worker team to check out these exact things) and they used the tools they had to solve this man's mania that the family was getting him to the hospital for.
Koch would want to get rid of Trump because the president is supposed to manage the foreign affairs of the bourgeoisie and they want someone who hasn't bankrupted everything to be that.


Gee I wonder why people wouldn't trust the police's official story.
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Oct 29 2020 08:50pm
Quote (Skinned @ Oct 29 2020 10:03am)
Details are coming out. 911 was called by family requesting ambulance for a mentally ill individual in crisis, no crime was being committed and the police were not called. Police were dispatched instead of a mobile crisis unit (social worker team to check out these exact things) and they used the tools they had to solve this man's mania that the family was getting him to the hospital for.



Koch would want to get rid of Trump because the president is supposed to manage the foreign affairs of the bourgeoisie and they want someone who hasn't bankrupted everything to be that.


Is that the fault of the police or of the dispatcher? Once the police are there, they need to react to whatever happens while protecting their own lives. I'd like to know what constitutes a "mentally ill person in crisis" in this case. Could mean anything. And once he ran at the police with a knife, a crime WAS committed. While it's possible that that wouldn't have happened if a social worker had shown up and not the police, it's also possible that the social worker would have been attacked, and it would be the social worker who is dead.
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Oct 29 2020 08:51pm
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Is that the fault of the police or of the dispatcher? Once the police are there, they need to react to whatever happens while protecting their own lives. I'd like to know what constitutes a "mentally ill person in crisis" in this case. Could mean anything. And once he ran at the police with a knife, a crime WAS committed. While it's possible that that wouldn't have happened if a social worker had shown up and not the police, it's also possible that the social worker would have been attacked, and it would be the social worker who is dead.


wait until 911 call and body cam released tbh it will tell all
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Oct 29 2020 11:27pm
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wait until 911 call and body cam released tbh it will tell all


it will tell, but the question is, will people listen if it doesnt fit their narrative...
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Oct 29 2020 11:32pm
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Is that the fault of the police or of the dispatcher? Once the police are there, they need to react to whatever happens while protecting their own lives. I'd like to know what constitutes a "mentally ill person in crisis" in this case. Could mean anything. And once he ran at the police with a knife, a crime WAS committed. While it's possible that that wouldn't have happened if a social worker had shown up and not the police, it's also possible that the social worker would have been attacked, and it would be the social worker who is dead.


Police chief commented on this, there is no "mobile crisis unit" that could have been called. Family contacted 911 for emergency services related to an armed man, and the police we're obviously the ones who showed up.
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Oct 30 2020 12:07am
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it will tell, but the question is, will people listen if it doesnt fit their narrative...


no but it weakens it. every little bit helps.
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Oct 30 2020 12:14am
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Police chief commented on this, there is no "mobile crisis unit" that could have been called. Family contacted 911 for emergency services related to an armed man, and the police we're obviously the ones who showed up.


Kinda the entire point of the defund the police movement.
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