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Oct 15 2020 04:51pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 15 Oct 2020 18:48)
Moving to the left =/= improvement.

I come from a place that was communist/socialist for a century. You'd think young leftists in the US would listen to people who come from communist/leftist places as to what it looks like in the long term. There's plenty of people from former USSR/Cuba/Venezuela and so on. You think Antifa every engages these people?

thor talking about third world standards when he lives in a tiny town he is too scared to leave and is on state subsidy is rich

e: inb4 repressed frustrated retort from the little fella

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Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 15 2020 05:48pm)
Moving to the left =/= improvement.

I come from a place that was communist/socialist for a century. You'd think young leftists in the US would listen to people who come from communist/leftist places as to what it looks like in the long term. There's plenty of people from former USSR/Cuba/Venezuela and so on. You think Antifa every engages these people?


Man I love how everything to you is the far left or non existent. You are incapable of arguing against anything except antifa.
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I am not as far right as I used to be economically, otherwise not much has changed.
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Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 15 2020 05:52pm)
I am not as far right as I used to be economically, otherwise not much has changed.


You don't really have principles, so it would be hard for you to say you've ever moved.
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Oct 15 2020 04:58pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 15 2020 06:53pm)
You don't really have principles, so it would be hard for you to say you've ever moved.


What a dumb thing to say.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 15 2020 06:38pm)
You don't know what inequity is living in the US, not like the real world does.

Talk to people from the 2nd world and 3rd world who would love to be here in your shoes. There's people slaving fields or in 100 degree factories 12 hours a day just to survive or people walking miles for clean water.

My parents bringing me to this country is probably the best thing to happen to me outside of maybe having my babygirl. If a dirt poor immigrant can come here and survive starting from scratch then you shouldn't be complaining about inequity. There's only a handful of countries in this world where this is possible.


Struggle by person 2 doesn't negate struggle for person 1.
Death will always be a possible struggle for person 2.
If person 1 always has struggle+1 they would never be able to be low enough to meet the criteria to have struggle, so its not really a logical idea to hold.

Using your own line of logic we could say that you've never struggled, which doesn't make sense because you also are implying that you have.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 15 2020 06:48pm)
Moving to the left =/= improvement.

I come from a place that was communist/socialist for a century. You'd think young leftists in the US would listen to people who come from communist/leftist places as to what it looks like in the long term. There's plenty of people from former USSR/Cuba/Venezuela and so on. You think Antifa every engages these people?


That would be like asking a 70 year old seamstress about macroeconomics.
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Oct 15 2020 05:01pm
Further right and down on the compass.

I used to be pro-choice, but I cannot rationalize aggression against someone who's defenseless. Pro-life is a necessary evil.
I used to be pro-death penalty, but I cannot discount the fact that they do not always get the right guy, and punishing an innocent to kill the truly guilty doesn't sit well with me.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 15 2020 05:53pm)
You don't really have principles, so it would be hard for you to say you've ever moved.


I think you've misremembered the following quote:

Quote (thundercock @ Mar 12 2012 08:38pm)
Unlike you, I don't really have many principles.
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Oct 15 2020 05:06pm
PaRD is an interesting place because I've been posting for what feels like essentially a decade now, and the Internet is amazing in the fact that I'm able to look back at those postings 10 years ago and compare them to today. While my general positions haven't changed over time, as I have long felt secure in far left identity, I would certainly say that both the style and overall quality of my communication has improved quite significantly. I wasn't sure that this was the case until I looked back at those messages. 10 years ago I was much more reactive, combative, and prone to the pitfall that is viewing the world through a 'left/right' binary. I've feel I've become a great deal more humble, comfortable in recognizing areas that I lack knowledge (economics, in particular), and have become increasingly bored with echo chambers.

That said, I hope this progress I see in myself is felt by those around me. Of the various left-wing posters that come through PaRD, I think it safe to say that I generally have one of the better relationships with right-wing posters for the most part. I suppose one major shift is that my younger self felt the need to take a strong stance against right-wing ideology, but nowadays my #1 enemy is tribalism and purity politics. I despise the right's obsession with "owning the libs" as equally as I despise the left's obsession with purity and theatrics. I've been registered as Non-Partisan in California since Day 1, and I anticipate this being the case for a very long time. I dislike political parties and find many grievances in Republicans and Democrats alike.

Of the posters that rustle my jimmies the most, it is no longer right-wing posters, but specifically posters who believe themselves to be holier than thou, hypocritical, and rude.

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Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 15 2020 05:58pm)
What a dumb thing to say.


I wouldn't have said that 5 years ago.
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