Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 12 2020 03:30pm)
Natives didn't remain nomadic hunter gatherers lol. That's so wrong it hurts to read.
Prior to Leif Erikson introducing diseases before the modern European movement they had cities with hundreds of thousands of people, they had well defined territories for tribes and even had treaties between nations with our constitution being modeled off of the Iroquois Confederacy, who also were a major player in military conflicts prior to the founding of the United States.
In the south the Inca empire dominated the Andies (sp?) and conquered a ton of territory, effectively controlling the west half of South America, and had incredibly well kept records for agriculture which resulted in thousands of different species of potato so they could be grown in every part of the empire.
The real issue is they didn't have any livestock that was capable of being domesticated, except maybe Llamas. This also meant they didn't have plagues since plagues come from species-jumping infectious agents.
large numbers of natives upon arrival of europeans were still nomadic hunter gatherers. Think dances with wolves winter camp. the existence of mesoamerican populous civilizations doesn't magically erase western plains natives, or midwestern native tribes, or eastern gathering natives.
plains natives specifically ranged in an area in their territory. there were a few areas in the midwest where large scale civilizations sprung up.
but i think overall you're simply taking my point too literally, that being that where scarcity existed as a general rule farming and agriculture arose, and where abundance existed as a general rule technological advancement was far slower.
whether its animal domestication, farming, metallurgy, etc. even if it was present in the americas it was far less advanced. the only exception i can think of is stone cutting of the Inca, which is still not really known how they accomplished.
This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 12 2020 02:39pm