Really any "ethnic" group is just an artificial division. The more general "critical theory" which focuses on power, instead of critical race theory which examines how power is examined as it is distributed based on race, would also work. Like, don't use gas theory to examine liquids. Use the more general theory.

with the focus on power or lack of it and the oppressed vs the oppressors this sounds like Marxist rhetoric rebranded

with crt and dividing people by race and rejecting science, logic, reason as tools of the oppressors it's pretty much a victimization cult that asserts only one reality is valid, the lived experienced of the oppressed and insists upon complete abdication of responsibility for their actions. poor oppressed people can do no wrong under this religion.

I can definitely see the appeal of this theory for white liberals eager to find new creative ways to engage in self flagellation

When people say "science is a tool of oppression" they almost never mean properly done science. They mean the bullshit that passed for so long like phrenology, or the cherry picked statistics used by people like Tucker Carlson. But the right doesnt read that far and just hear "science bad".

Like the cancel stem hashtag. Bad title, noble intentions to get more underrepresented groups into stem.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 7 2020 09:36am

precisely
do you notice this group never just writes a check to provide funds to solve the problems they admit they created?

that group just shutting up would be a start but because they’re guilty of so much damage, a large donation to the minority groups they’ve hurt is a better option

Terrible title but somewhat reasonable as i read into it
https://web.colby.edu/st112a2018/2018/03/07/science-as-an-instrument-of-oppression/

What's missing here is how they expect this to solve the gaps in outcomes of students of different backgrounds

The solution is basically just making people aware of the problem, and thereby encouraging people to look deeper into the material.

One great example of the problem is Tucker Carlson last year citing a study that showed in Arizona immigrants are more likely to commit crimes, which is basically the only study that shows that and it was only in Arizona. Everywhere else virtually every study said they were less likely to commit crimes and more likely to pay taxes than they were to use services.

Just making people aware of the cherry picking and the abuse of "science" is the solution in that case. Getting more under-represented groups into STEM so they can defend themselves on the national stage when things like this are used against them is also a solution.

The shitty thing about the left is it's so fractured. We value diversity so that means we rarely form united coalitions the way the right, which values conformity, does. So often there's a lot of disparate groups not really accomplishing much.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 7 2020 10:37am

Those often-cited studies on immigrant crime are almost universally trash though. Many of them dont even distinguish between highly qualified, merit-based immigrants (say the Indian programmer earning a six figure salary from Google) and low-qualification poverty immigrants who go moonlighting or join gangs. When you lump together two subgroups of which one is more prone and one is less prone to crime than the control group (here: native population), then their propensities for crime will cancel each other out to some degree.

Additionally, virtually none of those studies account for the common-sense fact that illegal immigrants have far higher incentives to not report crimes to the police than natives or legal immigrants, so that the undercount on their side can very reasonably be expected to be significantly higher than among the groups you want to compare them with.




Regarding STEM:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a32957375/mathematicians-boycott-predictive-policing/

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 7 2020 04:35pm

You actually have it backwards. The right bends over backwards to fund studies that go out of their way to not control data, the Arizona study that found 8% of inmates in Arizona were immigrants they lumped legal and illegal immigrants in, and when CATO went back and controlled the data they found illegal immigrants were half of that. CATO has found that both legal and illegal immigrants in Texas had a lower crime rate than native residents (CATO is a super conservative think tank by the way). Also, the idea that immigrants wouldn't go to the police is overblown, as if they criminalize the general public it will get reported regardless, and areas with more immigrants if anything have a lower crime rate, but usually it isn't significantly higher or lower. Unless you're going to tell us how they should control it with specific examples, just saying "immigrants are less likely to report" is just jaqing off instead of being productive.

It's basically a foregone conclusion at this point that immigrants are good for taxes, as they almost always pay in more than they take and they don't require an 18 year investment like native born people do, that they don't commit crimes at a higher rate and if anything commit it at a lower rate, and are generally good for developed economies where skilled labor is prioritized among native residents. Still, if you only look at right wing sources you would find different results, because the right wing in America does not have a legitimate foundation. It is entirely built on deception. Other parts of the world have a more substantial right wing, but in America it's most productive to understand they are dishonest to the core of the movement.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 7 2020 05:08pm

Just for the record: the CATO institute is not a classical conservative institution, let alone of the "trumpy conservative" kind - they are hardcore libertarians. It was literally founded by the Koch brothers, and funded by them and like-minded globalist billionaires. They are ultra-conservative on economic policy, but have always been in favor of free trade and high-volume immigration. For example, over the years, their members have published a ton of op-eds in large American newspapers calling for a version of 'comprehensive immigration reform' which boiled down to large-scale amnesty plus handing out worker visas like candy. On the topic of immigration, the CATO institute is not a neutral, unbiased actor, it is a propaganda rag with a clear pro-migration agenda.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 7 2020 06:10pm