bolded my responses with some questions for you below
i support law and order so you'll have a hard time getting me to sympathize with the folks complaining about heavy handed actions by the government in response to civil unreset although i agree that there are problems with the police that need to be resolved

in my own thread i already addressed many of your questions ( https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=83706670&f=119 ), and while you're right that some of the problems predate trump, he escalated every one of those i listed critically.

your point about the protesters would only be valid if those attacked / abducted / brutalised were only those that engaged in actual rioting or destruction of buildings, but that is NOT the case as you would know if you looked beyond the sensationalist headlines that you allegedly despise so much. here is a great source documenting those transgressions with sources: https://maminian.github.io/brutality-map/

regarding trump's delegitimisation of media, just read this forum for a while and you will see that over half of its regulars, those on the right, have uncritically accepted the 'fake news' narrative, outright dismissing everything they don't like to hear when it comes from an outlet that has ever been critical of trump. confidence in the press has plummeted under this administration ( https://news.gallup.com/poll/267047/americans-trust-mass-media-edges-down.aspx ). that's what i mean with 'successful', he got his cultists to deny facts and reality by discrediting those that report it.

also, false equivalences concerning other nations (not a single of which is perfect admittedly) are hardly a good argument for someone who INTENTIONALLY made covid-19 a partisan issue. it might have been a gross miscalculation, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a very deliberate move by trump's administration - and it cost tens of thousands of americans their lives.
we see incompetence, denial, and large scale failures in other countries (predominantly those with similarly authoritarian leaders, like china, russia, iran, brazil, turkey...) that completely bungled their response for various shitty reasons (mostly related to projecting 'strength'), but amongst western democracies the US is certainly unique in politicising this pandemic.

again, appease all you want, but trump's fascist tendencies are obvious and undeniable to anyone looking at it even remotely open-mindedly.

They also label journalists as adversaries, and we have cases where federal agents are going out of their way to target journalists who are clearly separated from the crowd and marked as journalists.

That's why you don't call them "adversaries". It encourages violence against everybody, even the ones who are doing an unambiguously good thing that is constitutionally protected.

It is impossible to police a riot by selectively targeting the rioters. All the more so when the rioters are interspersed throughout a "peaceful" crowd and the police are assaulted when they leave the safety of their ranks to make an arrest.

This is fundamentally why police declare the assembly a riot, ask peaceful protesters to exit, and then attempt to drive the protesters away via traditional crowd control tactics. None of this is net new behavior. Police have used tear gas and other number of other tactics in countless riots, not just in the United States, but in Germany, Canada, and around the civilized world. You have fundamentally failed to make this an argument about "fascism", and have instead embarked on a meandering criticism of riot policing that applies to virtually every Western democracy.



As you do routinely for media you don't like, even to the point where you accuse others of regurgitating news media that they've never read. Confidence in the press has plummeted because the press is perceived as fundamentally more partisan. There are good reasons for that perception, as any number of "Snope fact-check", hypocritical CNN fact-checks, or NYTimes back-tracks will attest.

I would go so far as to say that the average "right" poster on this forum has a far more nuanced view on media than you do. Their default position is that all media is untrustworthy, whereas you only seem to feel that skepticism when it applies to sources you personally don't like.



This has literally nothing to do with fascism.

You've also dropped your immigration defense? Did you have a change of heart in the handful of hours between posting it and now?

Is fender taken seriously around here?

Every post ive seen is so troll i cant tell if hes just firing people up to tickle his jorts or what

Posting Winnie the Pooh gets you sent to the gulag there.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jul 31 2020 06:14pm

jeez you're pretty stupid arent ya?



im not from "probably california"

This post was edited by KungPeriodFu on Jul 31 2020 06:17pm

donald trump is a fascist. the things he wants to do are fascist. he wants to be a dictator

Am I the one living on the Tibetan border?